To stop us from getting over confident perhaps

The thing is, this isn't said with hindsight, it was perfectly clear to everyone long before.

Calm down calm down. Top spot was never really in the equation this season, even more so after the first cas loss. We still have a good chance of second spot, the way the season is shaping up 2nd/3rd may well be the better places to finish (look at the makeup of teams and their positions and think about it).

won't say that if we finish 5th.................

That's a bad defeat no doubt, but having two games over 4 days again a month after doing it over the easter period too is a nonsense. And we are expected to back up again on Friday FFS an absolute joke imo, and i can absolutely see the views of players and coaches when they speak out on this.

For McDermott of all coaches to say anything is hypocritical to the extreme. And with that his players should also be looking closer to home.

I agree with the point, but you work within it for player welfare, not make it worse.

Shouldn't the question be what is the point of Walters?

Kind of glad I spent most of Monday nursing a hangover now. Was the second half really as bad as it sounded on the radio?

The second half in reality was no different to the first, the warning signs were there in the first half. We had absolutely no kicking game, other than an hoof in the air, our movement across in defence was cumbersome and slow, and we had officials who I have no idea where they were pulled from.

Why pick substitutes you have no faith in and have no intention of using !! FFS pick replacements you have some faith in.

Sounds like we could have used the lads we sent to Bradford during this congested period. Even if we only had Lilley it would have given us a kicking game and freed Moon up to go back into the centres. I don't understand why we didn't wait until this week to let them go on loan.

That's a problem with the depth of the squad - outside of the starting 17 the rest are pretty average.

Also with 4 at Bradford and 2 at Fev the options are limited

That`s pretty much what I was saying or at least use the subs picked on the day.
Even Widnes rested half a dozen for the game against Cas apparently maybe seeing the Leeds game as more winable.
Not sure what choices we have left for Friday so let us hope we are well ahead with 20 minutes to go.

Won't be saying what?

That second and third may well end up being better? No, I'll still say the same thing. It's just some other team will be profiting other than us.

To clarify my view, I think wigan/saints will finish 4th. I'd rather not play them or cas which leaves 2nd and 3rd.

you said you weren't bothered about losing. it should have been 2 easy points.
should we finish 5th and miss out by 2 points then this game will have been critical.
given hull and wigan lost, and our upcoming games, it was a chance to open up a gap.
yet again that bumbling idiot McDermott messed it up