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| McDermott speaks like a man absolutely secure in his job.....how many more of us would speak 'out of turn' if we knew we were 'indispensable'. Of course I have no idea of his exact employment circumstances, but I somehow suspect the man is to be suitably rewarded with significant long term guarantees of future employment at the club.
Other coaches will be more concerned with 'keeping their heads down'.
As stated I'm not sure it is wise to raise his head above the parapet when it does not directly benefit the club/employer he works for.
The future Leeds Rhinos' visits to Salford ground are hardly going to be favourably accomodated while in the control of the same incumbent's hands now are they?
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| Quote: leeds owl "I think you may be reading too much into a match result. Why didn't he speak out when Wire put 80 past Wakefield a couple of months back, didn't that bring the game into disrepute ? There are a lot of mercenaries at Salford that should have been giving 100% for their loyal band of fans that were at Headingley last night, Koukash wasn't wearing a pair of boots and tackling people, he pays the players good money to do that. The players owe it to the fans, let's not look beyond that before we start feeling too sorry for them and their abysmal showing.'"
Different situation at Wakefield entirely as Mac's team were not involved. On this occasion his team were involved and his response was to the specific question "are you disappointed you didn't get a closer game at this stage of the season?" This drew his views as to why Salford conceded 70 points which included his own experience at London and why he believed it was because the players were completely demoralised and shot and why they are better than that. What would you have had him say.... a lie?
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "He isn't paid to take care of Salford's players. It really has nothing to do with him how that club are run. I've no problem if he is speaking about an issue affecting the game as a whole, but individual people and individual clubs? Nah, no need to get involved.
Whether what he said is right or wrong, its still nothing to do with him. A little arrogant and pretty disrespectful to everyone at Salford.'"
I disagree. "everyone at Salford??" The only one who might have been upset is Dr K. I think in fact he was being quite respectful to the players and coaches at Salford. He repeated that they were a good group of players who had performed badly because they have been demoralised by the actions of the owner. He has a right to his view and was answering a question regarding the scoreline. I bet many of the Salford players would have been looking to shake Mac's hand for taking a stand.
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| Quote: Juan Cornetto "I disagree. "everyone at Salford??" The only one who might have been upset is Dr K. I think in fact he was being quite respectful to the players and coaches at Salford. He repeated that they were a good group of players who had performed badly because they have been demoralised by the actions of the owner. He has a right to his view and was answering a question regarding the scoreline. I bet many of the Salford players would have been looking to shake Mac's hand for taking a stand.'" It's worth pointing out that McDermott deliberately said the same thing about Koukash in at least two different interviews as well as the main press conference so he was deliberately raising this rather than just answering a question. But you're right, the only person this was disrespectful to was Koukash.
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| Brian McDermott is entitled to hold whatever opinion on Salford he wants. As it happens, his opinion is one I agree with. Those at the top of the club set the attitude and direction for those below them, including the players. At Salford, that attitude is one of short-termism, quick "fixes" and lashing out whenever things don't go the way the owner wants.
He's also entitled to express that opinion however and whenever he wants, which he's chosen to do. He knows and has worked with a number of those Salford players. He knows, as the rest of us probably do, that they're not seventy points a worse side than Leeds but that the owner is likely to come out in the press and give those players a hammering again. Maybe he feels he wants to be a voice for a group of players who will be too scared to have their own say?
It was good of Koukash however to make McDermott's point for him on social media afterwards, by choosing to tell someone who has forgotten more about how to build a winning rugby league team than he will ever know to "shut up".
Koukash can do what he wants with his money. When he starts running down professionals in the media however, he shouldn't be surprised if occasionally their fellow pros spring to their defence. He should certainly have a better, more appropriate response than to tell anyone who disagrees with them to shut up.
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| Dr Kockrash got the rounds of the kitchen from Mac
At the end of the day Mac only said what probably every RL player,coach,administrator,owner,fan or journalist wanted to say to him
Dr Kockrash can do whatever he chooses in regards to how he runs "HIS" club as he has put his money where his big mouth is,but I'll bet that there's plenty more 5hit to come out of the club before all this furor dies down
Kockrash needs to take a step back and to employ a coaching team that he trusts enough to stay out of the coaching domain
He clearly didn't trust Nobby or Harris to run things their way so lets see how he leaves his golden boy Sheens to turn his club around,sadly i can't see this working either
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| I wonder if BM's comments were made to boost Morley who as a legend of the game deserved better from his team-mates, though he couldn't resist a farewell headshot on Burrow to remind everybody what they'll miss when he's retired.
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| Quote: Old Feller "I wonder if BM's comments were made to boost Morley who as a legend of the game deserved better from his team-mates, though he couldn't resist a farewell headshot on Burrow to remind everybody what they'll miss when he's retired.'"
Don't think it was Morley specifically, but the likes of BJB, Darrell Griffin, Hauraki and Liam Hood for example who he will have worked with at Leeds.
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| The only issue I have with this is McDermott himself. There is no one in RL more sensitive to criticism than McDermott himself. The press conference after the loss against Saints where Moon was sent off and he used only two subs was truly an embarrassment. I have never once heard McDermott say he has got it wrong and his response to probing questions about is ability/decision making is to get aggressive
If you are going to give it out you have to be able to take it with equal magnitude otherwise you are nothing short of a schoolyard bully.
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| Quote: Sal Paradise "The only issue I have with this is McDermott himself. There is no one in RL more sensitive to criticism than McDermott himself. The press conference after the loss against Saints where Moon was sent off and he used only two subs was truly an embarrassment. I have never once heard McDermott say he has got it wrong and his response to probing questions about is ability/decision making is to get aggressive
If you are going to give it out you have to be able to take it with equal magnitude otherwise you are nothing short of a schoolyard bully.'"
I agree with this. To add also there is posters here who moaned about Wane previously for making comments that shouldn't concern him, yet here we are when MCDermott it is all ok. Or even threads raised about Cunningham, yet doesn't matter when one of our own.
Last week was also embarrassing when a simple question from an interviewer made him react. What does he expect is going to happen now each week from the same interviewer? Knowing he can get a rise out of him every time.
For me he didn't have the right to say what he had, especially when not pushed to do so, and neither should any other coach. They should stick to what they are paid to do. For me it is against the spirit of the game, and the RFL should deal with it, as it is them that should also be dealing with how Salford is run.
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| Good points well made by BMcD. But whilst Mahwan Quickcash is a high profile and very outspoken character you cannot help but think that RL needs someone to stick their finger in the pot and swirl it around abit. And Mr Quickcash may be doing the game a favour.
Personally I think marquee players is not the solution nor is unlimited salary for staff and players but RL is so far behind other TV based sports that it needs characters.
Perhaps a season or two in the championship is what Salford need. Looks at the Dwarfs it was the making of them IMHO after the fiasco of Maurice keeping them promoted by altering the rules each year.
The memories. Our Maurice and his seedy dealings! Lest we forget!!
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| Possibly the good doctors fault is he is looking at things through a businessmans point of veiw.
He logically thought hiring a good or potentially top class coach in Harris and then signing some decent players, he may achieve some modicum of success . Whilst I have no brief for the good doctor, he may have grounds to ask why a squad if reasonably good players should underperform.
As I have posted previously the players have to share some of the responsibility of the clubs failure .
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| To have a good team you need a group of players who respect each other and are prepared to show some honesty on the field. There is such a thing as personal pride in performance and that was sadly lacking on Friday.
You can blame the good Dr - he himself, unlike McDermott, has admitted he has made mistakes - but some of the players need to take a good look in the mirror.
Players like Chase will always be disruptive that is his nature - great talent but do you really want to build a team around his ego?
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| Quote: Andy Gilder "Don't think it was Morley specifically, but the likes of BJB, Darrell Griffin, Hauraki and Liam Hood for example who he will have worked with at Leeds.'"
All of whom we dispensed with as not being good enough for us, whereas Morley, as you know, left to challenge himself in the NRL.
He was the one I felt was particularly let down on what was his farewell appearance at the ground where it all started for him.
IMV he deserved better from his teammates.
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| Quote: Gotcha " and the RFL should deal with it'"
You were doing reasonably well up to that point.
It has absolutely nothing to do with the RFL. Why should it? Explain to me exactly how it is "bringing the game into disrepute".
It's someone within the game expressing an opinion on something else within the game. If you're not allowed to do that, then you may as well ban current players and coaches from going on things like the Super League Show, because they won't be able to say anything negative.
I would suspect some people on this thread are allowing their own antipathy towards McDermott as a coach and a person to cloud their judgement on this issue and turning it into another excuse to have a dig.
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