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Hardaker stopped four certain tries, who cares about ball holding. Briscoe with him in second half outstanding defensively. The other backs were poor, but Watkins was injured and should have been taken off.

Thaler came up with some terrible decisions, but I think not helped once again by refs playing the touch judge role and trying to get in on the act. Those two penalties for Cas last try were terrible decisions. The missed forward passes just ignored. The mile forward one in the first half which turned into us pulled for offside. The penalty against for two players in air for same ball.

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What about the try that Carney had disallowed?

What about the Leeds second try after Ryan Hall had reefed the ball out?

YOU need to look at both sides. The last two penalties by Cas were completely justified as those on sky highlighted.

A terrific game for the neutral, one of the best this season.

Sinfield, what was that about.

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Quote: Charlie Sheen "I don't understand the Watkins is off the boil comment. He was outstanding last week. I just wish he tried to involve himself more in the game. He doesn't have to spend the whole game in the centres, his pace and footwork could be devastating in the middle.'"


Players with tremendous talent like Watkins can still produce classy moments even when under par. I am not saying he is bad only that Watkins for some weeks has not been as sharp as his early season form. He got a knock early in this game but my comment was based on his form over several weeks now. His timing looks just a bit off the same as some of his team mates and he and Briscoe are not quite gellling.

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Watkins was good last week when for the first time in ages he recieved some decent ball , Tonight not so good but was injured most of game

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Quote: youngcat "What about the try that Carney had disallowed?

What about the Leeds second try after Ryan Hall had reefed the ball out?

YOU need to look at both sides. The last two penalties by Cas were completely justified as those on sky highlighted.

A terrific game for the neutral, one of the best this season.

Sinfield, what was that about.'"


There were some bad decisions both ways. The McGuire penalty at the end annoyed me because we'd seen Webster do exactly the same thing to Hall a few minutes earlier and nothing was given. It's consistency with fairly simple decisions that you want, and rarely get.

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Danny has history of that sort of thing and makes it so obvious

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Is it possible to jump and contest for a high kick without lifting your knees?

Slightly OT but does anyone else think having Stuart Cummins analysing every decision the ref makes during a sky game is necessary? What the ref does during a game seems to be analysed more than the actual play.

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great structure, dummy runners, well organised. unfortunately that was castleford. we showed great determination and busted a gut for the win but that isn't enough.shambolic at times yet again

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Quote: tad rhino "great structure, dummy runners, well organised. unfortunately that was castleford. we showed great determination and busted a gut for the win but that isn't enough.shambolic at times yet again'"


TBF I don't think Cas were particularly great in structure or organisation. They had a lot of success running off of quick PTB's and offloads but were equally guilty of not making the most of field position at times and their last tackle plays needed to be better, even Powell post match said along those lines.

What the game required was one team to grind the opposition down into their own half of the field with some basic simple RL and tough defence (JJB and Leuluai really stood up here IMO) and Leeds had started to do that around the time of Ablett's 2nd try.....but we then became clueless when time came to slot over a 1 pointer and make it a 2 score game which would've probably been enough.

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Quote: ThePrinter "TBF I don't think Cas were particularly great in structure or organisation. They had a lot of success running off of quick PTB's and offloads but were equally guilty of not making the most of field position at times and their last tackle plays needed to be better, even Powell post match said along those lines.'"



Then I would suggest you watch that game again. Cas were entirely as a team, with each on the same wavelength. Their dummy running at times was brilliant, unlucky to have another try wiped off. We rely on individual skill and nothing else. We are not coached as a team, with a plan, and it is exactly why tvoc on that other thread is a lot nearer the truth than others.

As for the game again, I would just like to say a big up for Delaney, who I personally thought had his best game in a Leeds shirt last night. Thought he was absolutely immense. Not a big fan most of the time, but If I saw that every week I certainly would be. And would also say, please please stop playing Achurch as a prop. The guy has gone from playing his preferred role each week and looking very promising, to filling in at prop and lucking a useless chump.

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Quote: Mike Oxlong "Classy Leeds fan!!

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About as classy as the Cas fans who throw bottles at Carl Ablett after his try in 2nd half. Morons.

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Thought Delaney was immense and Kylie carried huge impact in what he did.

Aiton's disappointing me at present. Doesn't want to run with the ball and not winning the ruck. Burrow at hooker for full game works better for me, didnt think id be quick to say that!

Stevie Ward's tackling efforts, -poor.

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Quote: thebloodbath "Thought Delaney was immense and Kylie carried huge impact in what he did.

Aiton's disappointing me at present. Doesn't want to run with the ball and not winning the ruck. Burrow at hooker for full game works better for me, didnt think id be quick to say that!

Stevie Ward's tackling efforts, -poor.'"


Intially I wasn't impressed with Aiton, then just as he started to settle and look the part he got sick. Hopefully a few more games and he will improve. But agree, he isn't doing it yet.
Stevie Ward looks light, can't help thinking his shoulder problems are having an effect on his confidence in the hit, but there have been times when he has looked dangerous with ball in hand - not enough though.

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Stevie Ward looks light, can't help thinking his shoulder problems are having an effect on his confidence in the hit, but there have been times when he has looked dangerous with ball in hand - not enough though.'"


Cas ran at him constantly in the opening part of the game. Inside the 1st ten or so minutes he got bumped off 3 times. hate to think what his total mis-tackles stacked up at.

This shoulder 'problem' / confidence issue has been mentioned a few times as an excuse/reason for none performances which is fair enough. But look how JJB threw himself back into the action after another injury lay-off. He was running round like my toddler, full of life and not questioning a thing. Ward should take a leaf out of his book.

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