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To clarify is he upset that he feels others have got away with things and he has been punished?

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Quote: DHM "In that case you are just like everyone else.'"


There are many on here who would wish us to believe otherwise.

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Quote: rhinos21 "To clarify is he upset that he feels others have got away with things and he has been punished?'"



Yes. But the biggest point was that he ended up with no break at all because of it. As soon as the England issue happened, Leeds dealt with it and told him to get back in training and cancel the holiday he had booked. Every player other than him had a break of some nature.

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These guys get paid to play sport, I have no idea what they have to complain about.

Oh dear, every now and again their employer asks them not to get f********d up on beer while they are expected to be ready to do their job. I get told when I can and can't book holidays, welcome to the world of grown ups with responsibilities.

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Quote: Gotcha "Yes. But the biggest point was that he ended up with no break at all because of it. As soon as the England issue happened, Leeds dealt with it and told him to get back in training and cancel the holiday he had booked. Every player other than him had a break of some nature.'"


Every other player at Leeds didn't get kicked out of a World Cup squad though.

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Quote: DHM "These guys get paid to play sport, I have no idea what they have to complain about.

Oh dear, every now and again their employer asks them not to get f********d up on beer while they are expected to be ready to do their job. I get told when I can and can't book holidays, welcome to the world of grown ups with responsibilities.'"


well said,fully agree.

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Quote: Gotcha "He is proving a point.

He felt he was handled badly and not consistently with others, and the instruction form McDermott for him to return to training straight away and cancel his holiday, in Zak's own words "will not be forgotten".

He was in discussions about a new contract before the episode with England. After then he called off all talks, and has not been back to the table since. His intention was to move at the end of his contract, back at Christmas time.

Hopefully, and I hope desperately, something will change there, and between them they can change his mind.'"

In which case I desperately hope he matures a bit quicker and doesn't waste his talent through arrogance and ego.
He deserved punishing.

I don't see a £2.5k fine and getting back in training to be an overly harsh punishment.

It's his own unprofessionalism that has put him in this position, if it's true he has reacted in that way then he really does need to grow up, as DHM has pointed out.

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Quote: ThePrinter "Every other player at Leeds didn't get kicked out of a World Cup squad though.'"



Not many are good enough to have the opportunity. Those that are should be taken into consideration, when operating a double standards operation, not the other way.

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Quote: Him "In which case I desperately hope he matures a bit quicker and doesn't waste his talent through arrogance and ego.
He deserved punishing.

I don't see a £2.5k fine and getting back in training to be an overly harsh punishment.

It's his own unprofessionalism that has put him in this position, if it's true he has reacted in that way then he really does need to grow up, as DHM has pointed out.'"



That's just a head up @rse type of response. Easy to say for someone without the talent to be in that position. I suspect would be different view had you been in same.

I am quite sure were you picked up for something at work, and received a reprimand, that your attitude would be different had your work collegue done the same thing and received a slap on the back.

But easy to comment until it happens to you.

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Why, who else from Leeds has been kicked out of a England World Cup squad?

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Quote: ThePrinter "Why, who else from Leeds has been kicked out of a England World Cup squad?'"



He didn't get kicked out of any squad. He left. Yes due to a disciplinary issue. You are confusing it with Hock.

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Quote: Gotcha "He didn't get kicked out of any squad. He left. Yes due to a disciplinary issue. You are confusing it with Hock.'"


Yes they dressed it up as "leaving for personal reasons" but reality is he was out for breaking a booze ban. They just wanted to avoid another "England player kicked out" headline.

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If he's that hissy about it, maybe he's better off away from an otherwise tight group of players.

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Quote: Gotcha "That's just a head up @rse type of response. Easy to say for someone without the talent to be in that position. I suspect would be different view had you been in same.

I am quite sure were you picked up for something at work, and received a reprimand, that your attitude would be different had your work collegue done the same thing and received a slap on the back.

But easy to comment until it happens to you.'"

No it's not. If anything you're the one with your head up your @rse, or more accurately, Hardakers.

I am sure if I were picked for something at work where I was nationally recognised and representing the country I wouldn't be so stupid as to c0ck it up just to have a few drinks.

He's a young lad, he made a silly mistake, he gets a second chance that everyone deserves. But his response to it will define his future. I sincerely hope, and I suspect he is, prepared to work hard to get back in that position of representing his country again.
If, however, he wants to go down a different route of effectively blaming everyone but himself, then that's up to him. But I'm confident he won't have as successful a career.

You still haven't answered the question as to which other Leeds players were sent home from the England squad?

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Quote: Him "No it's not. If anything you're the one with your head up your @rse, or more accurately, Hardakers.

I am sure if I were picked for something at work where I was nationally recognised and representing the country I wouldn't be so stupid as to c0ck it up just to have a few drinks.

He's a young lad, he made a silly mistake, he gets a second chance that everyone deserves. But his response to it will define his future. I sincerely hope, and I suspect he is, prepared to work hard to get back in that position of representing his country again.
If, however, he wants to go down a different route of effectively blaming everyone but himself, then that's up to him. But I'm confident he won't have as successful a career.

You still haven't answered the question as to which other Leeds players were sent home from the England squad?'"



He was the only Leeds player not sent home from the squad. He left, as already pointed out, the rest were sent home at the end.

You are still showing a clear position of not living in the real world. I am not sure you actually know what the problem was, and are probably convincing yourself of your own version.

Just to be clear here, from what he said, Zak never complained or had any issue with Leeds position on fining him and laying down the law as they did. What he had an issue with was the involvement of McDermott in increasing this by stopping him from having the season break, and making him cancel his holiday, whilst at the same time a couple of players showed behaviour that was far worse than Zak's situation, and were not taken to task on it.

In all fairness to McDermott here, he has learnt a lot from his mistakes of last year, and changed completely this with things. Possibly he may also have built bridges with Zak also since Christmas, and would do things differently now given the chance. And maybe they can get Zak back round a table to try and get a new contract. I personally desperately hope for that, but I doubt despite his desire to play for Leeds, that he will put that grudge aside. It would be Leeds and it's fans loss though.

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