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Quote: cheekydiddles "Phil Clarke on Boots 'n' All stats programme '"


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Quote: cheekydiddles "Phil Clarke on Boots 'n' All stats programme '"


Uh-huh.

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Quote: William Eve "If you've no evidence to back up those statements, just say so.'"

They aren’t my statements.

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As a question of consistency, how often do we hear coaches, commentators, players saying how the southstand gets on a referees back, and pressures him, The inference there is no different from what McDermott did'"


I strongly suspect that BMD was not looking at the Cats crowd as the reason why he thinks they get penalties at home. I believe he was looking at the Sky commentry box. So the question is, do Cats get a lot of penalties at home because the owners of the sport like the idea of a French team doing well, particularly at home?

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Quote: Jonesy's a Legend "it would be funny if the next time mac was interviewed after a game by sky if he just kept replying "i can't answer that one bill"
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Especially if (as in Perpignan) the man holding the microphone is Terry O'Connor.

The question asked IIRC was along the lines of Leeds having to play the last 33 mins with only 12 men showing great character - with McDermott replying 'I don't think that had a bearing on the game to be honest.' Then he launched into his pre-prepared statement - it was almost as if he expected to be commenting after a defeat.

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Quote: Jonesy's a Legend "Phil Clarke on Boots 'n' All stats programme the other week showed them and it showed Mac was right in what he'd claimed. '"


The stats pack feature showed Les Catalans had received more penalties by season total than they conceded in home games over the last four years (2009 to 2012) and they also showed that remained the case in 2013.

It looked at no other teams equivalent counts in their home fixtures by way of a comparison - those counts would be useful to see - but they did say there would be a follow up further down the track so hopefully the Catalan figures can be put in more context.

Quote: Jonesy's a Legend "Cannot remember the exact ratio but I think it was something along the lines of Catalans have been awarded 4 x as many penalties at home per game than all other home teams in SL over the last 4 seasons'"


I don't think that's what the stats pack analysis showed as I don't recall any comparison being made to any other SL club's totals.

The figures produced on the stats pack were
Year For Against
2013 57 23
2012 147 91
2011 114 94
2010 118 100
2009 113 96[/code

Using those it would appear Les Catalans have received 549 while conceding 404 in home fixtures over that period. They didn't say which games they covered (ie the total of Reg, PO, CC or a sub-set) so difficult to calculate a precise average but just supposing those totals related only to the SL Regular Rounds (57) that equates to a 2.5 penalty per match advantage to the home team.

I think Clarke inflated that difference to 4 per match and then tried to say but that's OK because they have more travelling to do than any other team in SL - as if that should be in any way taken into consideration.

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Quote: tad rhino "maybe so but the fact is leeds discipline after that game improved massively. maybe he learnt a thing or two..........'"


Bailey's not played since that game either.
Is that a coincidence?
Personally, I've been very pleased with our discipline in the last 2 games, very little head high stuff.
Not a part of our game I want to see.

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Just been watching the Catalan/Hudds game and Luke Robinson was harshly sent off for an off the ball tackle. Pryce took the line on and dummied to the player running off his shoulder. Robinson tackled this player hard (but if he had the ball it would have been a good hit) and Child went to his pocket and sent him off. This was after the crowd had chance to see 4 or 5 replays on the screen too. It was never a red, or a yellow for that matter, just a penalty IMO.

Funnily enough, Child said it was for a late tackle. How can it be a late tackle if the guy never had the ball?

Bloody French crowd... Bloody Child

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Child seems to me to referee the Dragons at home on a fairly frequent basis although I don't have any accurate records to prove or disprove this.
I wonder if this plays any part in them getting the bulk of penalties awarded?

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Quote: Harrigan "Just been watching the Catalan/Hudds game and Luke Robinson was harshly sent off for an off the ball tackle. Pryce took the line on and dummied to the player running off his shoulder. Robinson tackled this player hard (but if he had the ball it would have been a good hit) and Child went to his pocket and sent him off. This was after the crowd had chance to see 4 or 5 replays on the screen too. It was never a red, or a yellow for that matter, just a penalty IMO.

Funnily enough, Child said it was for a late tackle. How can it be a late tackle if the guy never had the ball?

Bloody French crowd... Bloody Child'"


100% right.

Child is hopeless at the best of times. today he was a disgrace.

Mr Gausch's gimp could not deliver the French the game today despite his best efforts.

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Seems like the key to beating Catalans on their ground is to have a man sent off.

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Or just turn up and put in a decent performance.

Without Dureau they are a shockingly poor side comprised of mediocre local products and overseas players stealing a living. They add nothing to the competition other than a jolly awayday for fans.

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Quote: Old Feller "Child seems to me to referee the Dragons at home on a fairly frequent basis although I don't have any accurate records to prove or disprove this.
I wonder if this plays any part in them getting the bulk of penalties awarded?'"


James Child started getting SL games in March 2009.

Taking the 58 Les Catalans home Regular Round games + 4 Play-Off ties - season 2009 to date - the referee list for their home games looks like this:

12 - Ben Thaler
10 - James Child, Richard Silverwood
9 - Steve Ganson
7 - Thierry Alibert
5 - Ian Smith
4 - Phil Bentham
2 - Robert Hicks, Tim Roby
1 - Gareth Hewer

Within that overall timeframe Child's first game in Perpignan was during May 2010 which means he has controlled 10 of their most recent 42 home Regular Round and Play-Off fixtures - 24%

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Paul Andersons comment on Saturdays game at Catalans. Anderson was tight-lipped over the sending-off of Robinson but admitted the incident re-energised his team.

"I am very angry but I like my money

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I know Bentham has had some time out due to injury, but only four Catalan home games in that period? Seems an incredibly low number.

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Quote: Andy Gilder " They add nothing to the competition other than a jolly awayday for fans.'"

Whoa whoa whoa. They're a decent, competitive side that often make the playoffs and get very good home crowds. What do longtime stalwarts of English Rugby League Cas and Salford (who played out a game of touch and pass in front of two and a half thousand yesterday) bring to the competition, in comparison?

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