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[quote:1pqtnbtj]Every player in our squad could probably earn more money with another club. But they prefer to sacrifice a few extra quid in their back pocket to share special memories. And playing at a place like Old Trafford on a night like this makes it all worthwhile.[/quote:1pqtnbtj] Kevin Sinfield:982.jpg



Quote: Juan Cornetto "
It is good that you have seen that "Buderus's defensive lead was fantastic" even though you needed to "watch the game back a couple of times" to appreciate this. Many of us were aware of this at the first time of watching!

I believe that if you were to watch back some of our other previous matches this year you will see Buderus putting in similar performances. (even though not on the field for 80mins!) Had others (JJB apart) matched his efforts we would have won more games. He will take some replacing.'"

I think you will find that I had to watch the game back because I had the misfortune of sitting in the Saints end behind an obnoxious bunch of aggressive St Helens fans who ruined the entire 1st half and spoiled my view of the game throughout.

Your assumptions and defensive reaction to me pointing out his error free game are duly noted though.

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He'll be missed. And we'll only know how much he's missed next year. He's been a pleasure to watch, but times change and things move on. Gutting.

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[quote:1pqtnbtj]Every player in our squad could probably earn more money with another club. But they prefer to sacrifice a few extra quid in their back pocket to share special memories. And playing at a place like Old Trafford on a night like this makes it all worthwhile.[/quote:1pqtnbtj] Kevin Sinfield:982.jpg



We'll be fine. Thanks for the memories but I am already looking forward to seeing Hood and McShane develop.

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[quote="Odemwingie":34o3cs52] I hope his career is over.(regarding danny mcguires injury 2010 play offs)[/quote:34o3cs52] [quote="Ewwenorfolk":34o3cs52] I'm glad McGuire got injured, hope he's out for about 10 months[/quote:34o3cs52] [quote="Bulls4Champs2010":34o3cs52]Price, Civ, Beaver, Moz and Wiki. Peacock is not in the catagory of these special players.[/quote:34o3cs52] [quote="McLaren_Field":34o3cs52] To be fair, their teams are also inconsequential to their own fans judging by the amount of traffic that all the other boards get [/quote:34o3cs52] [quote="Warrington Wolf":34o3cs52]If you win the weekly rounds then without doubt you are the champions.[/quote:34o3cs52]:



Quote: G1 "We'll be fine. Thanks for the memories but I am already looking forward to seeing Hood and McShane develop.'"

I'm not trying to be clever or have a go here G. Now you have the full picture do you think he was a good signing? I was the one who broke the news on the site! Up late browsing the net, it just popped up! I wasn't sure at the time what to think. I have thought his quality was always outstanding. He had some poor games but mostly was class for me. Genuinely interested to know what you think now he's moved on?

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Cheers Danny, it's been a pleasure to watch one of the best players in his position of his generation.

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danny has been fantastic for leeds sorry to see him go and i wish him all the best ,but we have to move on and give the young lads a go

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[quote:1pqtnbtj]Every player in our squad could probably earn more money with another club. But they prefer to sacrifice a few extra quid in their back pocket to share special memories. And playing at a place like Old Trafford on a night like this makes it all worthwhile.[/quote:1pqtnbtj] Kevin Sinfield:982.jpg



Quote: sgtwilko "I'm not trying to be clever or have a go here G. Now you have the full picture do you think he was a good signing? I was the one who broke the news on the site! Up late browsing the net, it just popped up! I wasn't sure at the time what to think. I have thought his quality was always outstanding. He had some poor games but mostly was class for me. Genuinely interested to know what you think now he's moved on?'"

He's one of the all time greats of the game.

He has played some very good games for us but he hasn't been dominant enough consistently enough for my liking given his reputation. Perhaps that isn't his fault. His first two seasons sharing with Diskin clearly didn't work, through no fault of either player.

I think he was an unnecessary signing given the success we enjoyed with the incumbent (something Buderus himself agrees with btw) and the glaring needs elsewhere in the squad at the time.

I think the adulation afforded him by our fans was out of proportion to his displays for us and OTT. That has always been my major issue which is really more an issue with fans than Buderus. Dare to even point out an error on his part and you cop it with both barrels. He was untouchable unlike others that had perhaps more so deserved that kind of unswerving loyalty and support. Again, an issue with fans rather than player.

Those have always been my views and, for some reason, they seem to ignite a passion amongst posters who cannot actually comprehend what I've put.

I am pleased he's had a fitting end to his Leeds career as he seems a genuinely nice bloke. We'll move on without him just as we've moved on when past greats have retired or left the club but the "we're doomed" response to his departure illustrates my point really.

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[quote="Odemwingie":34o3cs52] I hope his career is over.(regarding danny mcguires injury 2010 play offs)[/quote:34o3cs52] [quote="Ewwenorfolk":34o3cs52] I'm glad McGuire got injured, hope he's out for about 10 months[/quote:34o3cs52] [quote="Bulls4Champs2010":34o3cs52]Price, Civ, Beaver, Moz and Wiki. Peacock is not in the catagory of these special players.[/quote:34o3cs52] [quote="McLaren_Field":34o3cs52] To be fair, their teams are also inconsequential to their own fans judging by the amount of traffic that all the other boards get [/quote:34o3cs52] [quote="Warrington Wolf":34o3cs52]If you win the weekly rounds then without doubt you are the champions.[/quote:34o3cs52]:



Quote: G1 "He's one of the all time greats of the game.

He has played some very good games for us but he hasn't been dominant enough consistently enough for my liking given his reputation. Perhaps that isn't his fault. His first two seasons sharing with Diskin clearly didn't work, through no fault of either player.

I think he was an unnecessary signing given the success we enjoyed with the incumbent (something Buderus himself agrees with btw) and the glaring needs elsewhere in the squad at the time.

I think the adulation afforded him by our fans was out of proportion to his displays for us and OTT. That has always been my major issue which is really more an issue with fans than Buderus. Dare to even point out an error on his part and you cop it with both barrels. He was untouchable unlike others that had perhaps more so deserved that kind of unswerving loyalty and support. Again, an issue with fans rather than player.

Those have always been my views and, for some reason, they seem to ignite a passion amongst posters who cannot actually comprehend what I've put.

I am pleased he's had a fitting end to his Leeds career as he seems a genuinely nice bloke. We'll move on without him just as we've moved on when past greats have retired or left the club but the "we're doomed" response to his departure illustrates my point really.'"

I can see what you are saying and you make good points but after you have seen his Leeds career start to finish,

was he a good signing in your opinion. Yes or no?

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Quote: sgtwilko "I can see what you are saying and you make good points but after you have seen his Leeds career start to finish,

was he a good signing in your opinion. Yes or no?'"

To specifically answer the question "was he a good signing", taking into account the quota spot, the incumbent player, the salary, the needs elsewhere, the way the team handled his absence post July 2009 then I'd have to say, on balance, and the last two months have made this closer than it should be........... then no.





Bring it on.

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I've never seen any need for talking about Buderus to descend into a Buderus vs Diskin debate.

Diskin is a nailed on hall of famer for Leeds, local lad who contributed a huge amount over 10 years.

Buderus is an all time great of the sport who arrived at Leeds a little past his best, and probably won't be 100% happy with what he's accomplished. I don't believe for a second that he was one of those who came here just for the pay day, and I suspect his determination to finish his spell here with a GF win may have been a big plus for us in our end of season run.

His injury in his first year was the sort of thing that has sent a plethora of overseas stars running back home, but he clearly wanted to see the job through.

In the final analysis, his total Leeds contribution lags behind Diskin, but that doesn't matter. Great player, model professional, natural born winner. Finished his spell here really, really strongly, and I'm glad that's how he will be remembered by Leeds fans.

Was he a necessary signing? Possibly. Not sure Diskin still had it to be honest. Sentiment is a wonderful thing, but over the past year to 18 months Buderus has been the better player by some distance.

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Quote: El Diablo "I've never seen any need for talking about Buderus to descend into a Buderus vs Diskin debate.

Diskin is a nailed on hall of famer for Leeds, local lad who contributed a huge amount over 10 years.

Buderus is an all time great of the sport who arrived at Leeds a little past his best, and probably won't be 100% happy with what he's accomplished. I don't believe for a second that he was one of those who came here just for the pay day, and I suspect his determination to finish his spell here with a GF win may have been a big plus for us in our end of season run.

His injury in his first year was the sort of thing that has sent a plethora of overseas stars running back home, but he clearly wanted to see the job through.

In the final analysis, his total Leeds contribution lags behind Diskin, but that doesn't matter. Great player, model professional, natural born winner. Finished his spell here really, really strongly, and I'm glad that's how he will be remembered by Leeds fans.

Was he a necessary signing? Possibly. Not sure Diskin still had it to be honest. Sentiment is a wonderful thing, but over the past year to 18 months Buderus has been the better player by some distance.'"

I can't argue with an yof this.

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Quote: G1 "I can't argue with an yof this.'"

Agreed. Sums it up nicely I'd say.

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Quote: Andy Gilder "Cheers Danny, it's been a pleasure to watch one of the best players in his position of his generation.'"


Exactly the point I have been trying to make for three years - sport at this level is about watching elite athletes.

We seldom get to see the top Aussies to see one of the very top Aussies only a weekly basis has been superb.

Anyone who thinks Diskin would have been capable of a performance like the ones Buderus put in over the past two weeks is deluded.

If Buderus had not performed as he has we would not have won either game.

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[quote="Odemwingie":34o3cs52] I hope his career is over.(regarding danny mcguires injury 2010 play offs)[/quote:34o3cs52] [quote="Ewwenorfolk":34o3cs52] I'm glad McGuire got injured, hope he's out for about 10 months[/quote:34o3cs52] [quote="Bulls4Champs2010":34o3cs52]Price, Civ, Beaver, Moz and Wiki. Peacock is not in the catagory of these special players.[/quote:34o3cs52] [quote="McLaren_Field":34o3cs52] To be fair, their teams are also inconsequential to their own fans judging by the amount of traffic that all the other boards get [/quote:34o3cs52] [quote="Warrington Wolf":34o3cs52]If you win the weekly rounds then without doubt you are the champions.[/quote:34o3cs52]:



Quote: G1 "To specifically answer the question "was he a good signing", taking into account the quota spot, the incumbent player, the salary, the needs elsewhere, the way the team handled his absence post July 2009 then I'd have to say, on balance, and the last two months have made this closer than it should be........... then no.





Bring it on.'"

Yeah I've thought that. I'm undecided. I have loved burderus at Leeds but thought we could have brought in younger uk players in other positions who we could have got 6 to 10 years out of!

But bloody glad he played for us.

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[quote:1pqtnbtj]Every player in our squad could probably earn more money with another club. But they prefer to sacrifice a few extra quid in their back pocket to share special memories. And playing at a place like Old Trafford on a night like this makes it all worthwhile.[/quote:1pqtnbtj] Kevin Sinfield:982.jpg



Quote: Sal Paradise "
Anyone who thinks Diskin would have been capable of a performance like the ones Buderus put in over the past two weeks is deluded.

If Buderus had not performed as he has we would not have won either game.'"

See above for an example of the OTT reaction and dragging the grown up discussion into a Diskin vs Buderus debate.

No, David, of course Diskin couldn't put in a big display in a GF and Leeds couldn't get to one and win one without Buderus. icon_rolleyes.gif

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