Incredible, unbelievable. Never seen anything like it.

bulldogs in 03?

Strange that more than a few are defending Melbourne on the Wigan board!! who'd of thunk it ey!

What happens to/with some of their super star players moving forward??

Presumably some are either going to have to accept taking home much less pay or will have to be shipped out if the club cannot keep them within the salary cap rules?

Quote: Gotcha "I don't want to sound like sour grapes, or desperate or anything. But surely, if they have been sripped of the titles, their minor premierships, and this seasons points, surely they should be stripped of the WCC also? Leeds should be quick on getting this message across.'" GH has already commented on it. Well no direct quote, but i agree that we shouldn't claim the WCC. We lost on the day and thats it done for me. news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_l ... 636565.stm *Sourgrapes mode* I still don't feel it was Melbourne that cheated us out of the WCC, but a certain person with a whistle.

Quote: Gotcha "I don't want to sound like sour grapes, or desperate or anything. But surely, if they have been sripped of the titles, their minor premierships, and this seasons points, surely they should be stripped of the WCC also? Leeds should be quick on getting this message across.'" GH has already commented on it. Well no direct quote, but i agree that we shouldn't claim the WCC. We lost on the day and thats it done for me. news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_l ... 636565.stm *Sourgrapes mode* I still don't feel it was Melbourne that cheated us out of the WCC, but a certain person with a whistle.

if leeds get the 50,000 back from the wcc and give the money to the players,as they were going to do.wont that take us over the cap?

I think the players should also be punished as they have accepted off the books payments, unless they expect people to believe that they thought getting a pay cheque and a brown envelope was just normal.

Bonuses not part of the cap.

Really?

I bet a lot of 'bonuses' get put through.

The general gist on here more than suggests there are ample ways to put things through.

Makes you wonder how daft some clubs are to get pulled up for it.

No, any prize money does not count on the cap. It would defeat the point of having prize money if you you could not give some or all of it to the players. The club can choose to do whatever it likes with prize money under the cap rules, so it can give every penny of it to it's players if it wants. It suspected that the majority of the prize money from our last 3 grand finals went into giving players bonuses payments because the club can afford to do so.

He means prize money does not count on the cap.

That'll be for the Australian tax and criminal authorities to look at and decide whether any criminal charges need to be laid against the club, its directors or individuals concerned.

You can't hold the players responsible for their employer's decision to try and cheat the salary cap.

I think that if my employer suggested that I receive half my wage in the normal way with a payslip, and the other half paid in cash with no questions, or paid to my wife with no questions asked, or if I received a contract of employment that only mentioned half of my salary on it with a separate letter confirming that the other half would be paid by other means and I was not to tell anyone about it - I'd start to wonder who the hell I was working for.



Mind - it has happened

of course you can! the players were on the take! They should have blown the whistle at first indication. Any point after that they are guilty by involvement, profiting and association. they are most guilty of conspircy to cheat the cap which has to be 100% against the spirit of the cap! I would imagine the Aussie authorities will think they are responsible.