you dared to question the coach? expect that post to be dragged up at some point and remember, you shouldn't have an opinion.

Go get 'em Tad.
Did anyone ever tell you that you shouldn't have an opinion?

there is no way of proving either, though i would say for long parts of the season we werent pushed at all,

If you think back 5 years ago, Bradford, Saints, Hull, Wigan, Warrington were all more than capable sides, the past three years its been Leeds and Saints then daylight

im not sure we could have won the 2004 GF without a recognised centre or with the pack we had.

And if this club is truly one of champions the question we need to ask is not is the squad good enough, but is the squad as good as it could be, last season i dont think it was

however next year i think man for man, our squad is the best it has been since 04, and if we can deal with the (very very very difficult) issue of keeping three times winners fully fit, motivated and psychologically at the top of their game we should win this league at a canter

See my post a few posts up the thread about the implications of a hard salary cap finally being in place.

No

I started supporting Leeds in 01/02 so i was around for a little part of the 'underarchiving' years. When Leeds got to the 2003 CC Final, it was like a dream, which was then shattered. The year later we got to the 04 GF, when the final whistle went i was just stunned. I was thinking to myself 'this just doesnt happen to Leeds, its not meant to happen'.

Yesterday i watched the 2008 GF on Dvd and when the final whistle went and the camera showed Gaz Ellis going balistic, the hairs on the back of my neck stood up and i had a massive grin on my face. Just after that 08 victory i remember walking out of the stadium thinking Wow were only the 2nd team to win back to back titles, it was a huge sense of pride to be up there in a little bit of history. I felt the same mind set as what i had in 2004 - "stuff like this is not meant to happen to Leeds - were meant to be the losers of finals, get so near but yet so far". To be up there with Saints and to do something Bulls havnt done before was a great feeling. And now to think to went on to make it 3 in a row - well i dont think that has sunk in yet.

So just to taste a little bit of the 'bad times' is enough for me to savour every single minute of this golden era we are in.

Nonsense. The pack of 2004 had large contributions from the likes of Wayne McDonald, Chris Feather and Danny Ward.

If last seasons' squad wasn't good enough for you then you appear to have truly missed the point of Tads' thread and are a perfect example of the kind of whino fekkwitt that blights our club.

People were saying all year that we were not playing very well (even though we were 2nd for most of the season). I bet Warrington or Hull would have liked to have been in our "terrible" predicament.

Clubs are now fully aware of how to play the system after all these years of GF's, especially after the Bulls (in 2005) showed everyone that hitting form at just the right time is the key.

I think the people who savour our GF triumphs the most are any of us who had to suffer the 80's and 90's barren years. The trebble is a tremendous achievement but is not as special as our 2004 win.

No such thing with the GF. Always comes down to 1 game

So you would swap 1 GF win for 3 in a row?

The group of players who just did the treble have won as many championships as the club did from 1870 – 2003, think of all the greats who have played for the club in that time, all the true world class players.

Sinfield, McGuire, Burrow, Senior, Bailey, JJB & Diskin have all won more Championships in 6 years than Leeds RL could manage in 133 years, that’s how I will remember this current bunch.

Was her not meaning that it felt mopre special to him after the 80s & 90s?

Are you related to Danny?

2004 will always be special to the many long suffering and knowledgeable Leeds fans.

To ask such a gormless question would indicate that you are not in that category, and poses the question.....will Gareth and Danny be happy to share the stage with another and possibly more cerebrally challenged numpty?

tweedledum and tweedledumber are a fairly well established act on here, and I'm not too sure that a trio including dumbest is necessarily the way forward for the Windowlene faction.

Standards must be maintained here on SS.

My second post was not in reply to chunky, it was just in general with the thread and my thoughts on the treble winning squad and the people who moaned about it throughout the past 3 years and this last year in particular.

2004 was huge. After many years of underachieving it was a fantastic feeling. It will always be special.

Three years on the bounce is something else though. A much bigger achievement. I was immensely proud when the hooter went in 2009.