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Quote: orange trance guru "mcguire may hav scored twice and got bbc mom but i didnt think he played particularly well. He was poor in defence and wasted a few chances with poor passing and decisions. Buderus and Bailey were the best 2 for me. On another point James Graham was crap in defensive.'"


If you are referring to the occasion when Danny Mags passed the ball into touch when he had made a clean break then you need to watch it back again. For some reason Clarkson was on the wing and both he and Senior didn't push up when Danny broke the line - he passed to where the winger should have been. It was not a bad decision from McGuire at all.

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Quote: orange trance guru "mcguire may hav scored twice and got bbc mom but i didnt think he played particularly well. He was poor in defence and wasted a few chances with poor passing and decisions. Buderus and Bailey were the best 2 for me. On another point James Graham was crap in defensive.'"


another bailey enthusiast. It's a joke. How bailey can be mentioned before senior or mcguire is beyond me. I know it's all opinion but I'm sorry I just don't see it.

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Quote: AL Rhino "another bailey enthusiast. It's a joke. How bailey can be mentioned before senior or mcguire is beyond me. I know it's all opinion but I'm sorry I just don't see it.'"


McGuire, then Bailey, then Senior for me

Bailey was ace yesterday, targeted well and watch how he was aiming for Graham all the time

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Quote: AL Rhino "another bailey enthusiast. It's a joke. How bailey can be mentioned before senior or mcguire is beyond me. I know it's all opinion but I'm sorry I just don't see it.'"

Al, why is it a joke that so many posters don't share your opinion?

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I know mcguire is a great support player but is all round game was very poor yesterday compared wiv what has been expected of him in the last couple of seasons. There were several times when either passes went to ground he dropped the ball or messed his kick up. I am a big mcguire fan but i just didnt think he played well yesterday the 2 tries apart. Which was the only reason he got mom from what Jiffy said. Buderus, Bailey, Senior and Hall to a few all had better games imo.

I nearly ran out kleenex after watching the replay for Buderus pass for Webbs try this morning.

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I do not take the view of some on this forum that all Bailey has to do is step on the pitch to have a great game, however, he did have one of the stand out performances from yesterday.
He needs to engage his brain and stop consistently giving stupid penalties away as this is hurting the team.

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Bailey was very good yesterday, went forward very well and only gave away one penalty IIRC. DO NOT let Jonathan Davies' complete over reaction to him ruffling Scott Moore's hair influence your opinion, for those of you who've watched it. I've seen that happen in nearly every game I've watched this season.

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I noticed the reaction of the players when they came to our end Bialey was slapping his heart/badge ,He put a big effort in for leeds ,he knew it and we knew it.I just wish he could get his GF rings back

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As agreed by most Bailey, Buderus, Senior and McGuire were the best players on the pitch for Leeds IMO. I text my friend at half time saying we still had a chance but Bailey & Buderus needed to be brought back on ASAP. I'd have given Buderus MOM by a whisker (the McGuire pass into touch & knock on and the Bailey penalty have been taken into account) not only for his attacking prowess but the amount of work he put in defensively - the man is a tackling machine and plays well above his weight

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Quote: G1 "Al, why is it a joke that so many posters don't share your opinion?'"

I'll tell you why Gareth. I don't believe most of these posters think for themselves. When you throw your weight behind a campaign people invariably follow.

I can tell you many of the people I watched the game with did not share the opinion of the posters on here. I honestly believe that the praise for Bailey is over the top most of the time.

I read these boards every day but I have to say the world on southstander and off it is a completely different one as far as opinions go.

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I agree. I think Bailey has gone from been an underated player to a over hyped one on here.
That is not to say i don't think he is playing well and worthy of his place in the team. He is playing as well, if not better than at anytime since he broke into the team but is still getting over hyped IMO.

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Quote: AL Rhino "When you throw your weight behind a campaign people invariably follow.
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It's a lot of weight to throw but I am working on it.

I haven't always rated Bailey so highly. I found his work rate (or lack thereof) infuriating back in 2005 ish. I still wish he would up his work rate a little but there's only so many carries to share around and that's not his main function in the team. What he does is usually high quality though. I like tha aggression he show in collision with and without the ball and he plays a vital role in our success along with those around him.

He was under appreciated. He might now be over appreciated but that is surely better for a player who has acheived what he has done with our club?

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We do have a fair number of easily manipulated posters icon_biggrin.gif but hey ho.

When Jamie Peacock, who for me is the heart and soul of this squad, had his extended rest this season, Bailley has really stepped up to the mark in his absence.

It doesn't make him an automatic candidate for MOM, far less an England call up, but I do think you need to give credit where its due.

Equally, I think he should get his ass kicked when he gives away a needless penalty, as in Saturday, that cost us 6 points in a very tight game.

Overall, I reckon he's having his best season, and if that gets up the noses of the chattering classes......so much the better!

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Quote: BillyRhino "We do have a fair number of easily manipulated posters
Pretty much agree with this, although it's always tempting to big up Bailey just to wind up opposition fans. Re conceding the penalty, a different ref might just as easily have given Moore 10 minutes to cool off.

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Quote: Clearwing "Pretty much agree with this, although it's always tempting to big up Bailey just to wind up opposition fans. Re conceding the penalty, a different ref might just as easily have given Moore 10 minutes to cool off.'"

The penalty was a high tackle on Roby mate!
We got the scrum for knock on after the Moore dummy spit because RB tapped his noggin for it and he flipped.

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