To be fair Seth you’re not a super league or NRL coach either (are you???) so is it just possible RS knows more about coaching and is better at it than you are?

You’re entitled to make criticisms of course, you’re obviously very knowledgeable but it’s also not the case that there is only one way to do things.

I happen to agree with you in terms of building fundamentals but I think RS focuses on energy conservation (to some extent like TS). Jury is still out but it is a legitimate approach.

You're the one assuming that "trick plays" are being prioritised, there's absolutely no proof of that.

And I'd point to our high completion rate as being proof of fundamentals being much sounder this year than last for a start.

Not sure that calling Ash’s trys ‘trick plays’ is very fair either, both had a tremendous amount of skill and awareness involved.

Especially the one against Salford, Id much prefer us to be playing whats infront of us in those situations rather than just playing percentages to get out of our half.

If you’ve got that skill in your locker you use it.

Ouch, that cuts deep Jim, you enjoyed getting that in ..Probably the most experienced coach in here then.

I'm entitled to comment on what I see as much as anyone is (a bit like your strong views on the disciplinary Jim, i dont think youre a match official and maybe theres more than one way of doing things?)

I've not slagged anyone off or called for his head but people seem to be very touchy (like Chris' 'i though it'd take longer than rnd 2 before 'all this') will see whether RS way of doing things is able to get the team and I think by round 8-10 we can give a fair assessment whether that's going to b enough to complete at the top end over the long term.

LeedsBA - completion would suggest some execution of fundamentals but you can still complete high without offering much in the way of creating space for the majority of the time. Stats aren't always the best indicator. And again you and Christopher are choosing to take what I've said about the cross field kick (which I've said more than once was a brilliant play) without any context.

It’s like being in a classroom on here. Hard to actually follow topic with the pathetic bickering……
Please start a private WhatsApp chat or something, if you want such a personal chat fellas

Eh it's a discussion forum, what personal chats are we having? I've not asked Seth what he's having for his tea.

Must admit it is nice to watch us run round teams again, haven’t seen that since we had Watkins/Moon!

I look forward to you contributing something of interest to the class Shabs, til then, sit down.

A couple of signings aside, I like his recruitment so far. You could say he's been given a sizeable war chest too.. some re-signings I'm not so convinced by but I don't know the intricacies of the salary cap or what players are like off-field and in training.

It's fair to say that we are all expecting better performances and results from the team this year. Already we have injury clouds over Holroyd, Oledski straight away, and now Lisone banned. Is RS responsible but us being dodgy in the critical front row positions? I don't think so but yet this could cost us games.

I still think we should have signed another ready-to-play prop, but maybe the right person just wasn't available. We were linked with a couple before they signed at other clubs.

I would also like to see us being more effective in "good ball", but in fairness I've already seen better application of pressure than most of last year. Leeds have not been great in the opposition 20 for a very long time now, since well before RS - but we have players like Newman, Croft and Miller who can create something at the line.

He would be responsible for continually picking Donaldson there, though thankfully that's been taken out of his hands for a couple of games and I hope he never has to consider that option again.

Agree on Donno; great club servant but when he’s making an average gain of 3m at prop it’s pretty embarrassing.

Emergency back rower only for me.