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I wish you guys would hurry up and get rid of Gary, then you'll have a chance of getting promoted!

I'd rather Barnsley play Leeds next season then MK Dongs or Millwall

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Quote: tad rhino "do we not have 2 centre halves?'"


Yes, and one was standing on the sideline.

Probably the most important outfield player at that moment.

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Quote: tad rhino "the same mistakes have happened since the first week of the season. centre of defence is a shambles and is the real weakness yet he does nothing about it. the players can't get used to each other as the side is constantly chopped and changed.
it's easy to blame the referee, he is the soft target. marques is off,rightly or wrongly, and yet again we concede a goal from a corner. we concede from corners most weeks. is it the refs fault every week.
i said i wasn't sure about GM's appointment at the time and i'm sure he isn't the man for the job. hope i'm wrong he makes me look a pratt but i can't see us getting close to going up'"


The consistency of your 'fingers crossed that Garry Mac' fails approach is commendable but how many times is it based on a reasonable assessment?

He has a big squad and picks players based on the opposition/form. In every game we create more chances which suggests its not too bad a policy.

Maybe as importantly we've also had a fair few injuries - Sheehan, Marquez, Huntington, Telfer, Ankegren, Richardson, Robinson, Beckford, Christie, Hughes, Bechio, Michalik and White have all been unavailable for periods (some of them long) because of injury or illness. Add to that that Delph has been suspended, Sheehan has been suspended and Kilkenny was away at the start of the season on international duty and it kind of suggests quite a few changes are forced.

Yesterday there were 3 changes. Richardson was injured so he had to be replaced. Delph returned from suspension - would you leave him out? Kilkenny was then brought in for Showunmi to allow Snodgrass to play up front - and Snodgrass scored.

The problem has been the defence. Richardson has missed a few games now but his obvious replacement, Telfer, has been used as an emergency centre half because Huntington has missed most of the season and Lubo and Marquez decent chunks of it. At left back Sheehan has missed much of the season through injury and suspension and Aidan White has proved not to be strong enough (at 16/17) to last 90 minutes week in week out. Casper is a decent keeper behind a settled and confident back four but a calamity behind a makeshift one. Lucas is steady, slightly less gaff prone but probably not good enough for first choice.

If you accept that you're not allowed to pick injured, ill or suspended players then the manager hasn't had a right lot to work with in defence - off the top of my head I can't think of a single game where everybody has been fit and available for selection - even if you think just of the defence. Frequently its been a case of pick 4 to play in defence from 5/6 available players even if some of them are back up players or players playing out of position because there's nobody else.

They've tried to bring players in on loan to shore up the defence and provide some extra depth and competition but they're not prepared to drop divisions or accept loans - despite the oft quoted lure of playing football under Garry McAllister (a nice contrast from the previous manager).

Not sure what else is really expected?

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we have a far bigger squad than anybody else in this division and the quality far exceeds anything that any other team has got.
i find the excuse that "our centre half was off when they scored was the reason we lost" pathetic.
could 10 other players not head a ball?
could 10 other players not mark?
defensively we are a shambles and have been all season.
is this acceptable? maybe to some but not me. lubo is an international and very experienced player. he is a joke and has been all season.
injuries is a p1ss poor excuse. all teams have them and given we have the biggest squad is even less than an excuse. continually losing goals from set pieces most weeks is not because of injuries.
the team has no shape whatsoever. last season he had square pegs in round holes simply to accomodate 4 central midfielders. he bought robinson, a quality winger yet uses him from the bench or up front.
tactically GM is inept,clueless. most weeks i hear "we dominated and created loads of chances but lost".
that happens, but not as much as is being made out.
whilst i'm not someone who expects to win every game i certainly expect leeds to be challenging for the top in this league. the way things are going we will struggle to make the play offs

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Quote: Sir Daniel Anderson "
Refs at Bellend Rd either try to run the show in front of a big crowd or crumble into a wreck.'"


Kindly desist from trying to antagonise posters.

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Quote: Sir Daniel Anderson "
Refs at Bellend Rd either try to run the show in front of a big crowd or crumble into a wreck.'"


Kindly desist from trying to antagonise posters.

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Quote: Mahone "It doesn't matter. Blood is blood, whether it's a drop or a load. In this day and age the shirt needs changing.'"


But it went on for 10 minutes before the ref noted he had blood on him and he waited until they had a corner to take him off

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Huntington has been given a 3 match ban for admitting to winding the Carlisle fans up last season.

Its ok saying Macca has had all season to sort the defence out but the only players he has had have been Lubo, Rui, Telfer and Huntington. 2 of those came from the premiership and were highly rated when we brought them in and injuries haven't helped either. The only other option we have is bringing an academy player in and Macca obviously doesn't think there good enough yet.

Once the centre of defence is sorted and we have worked out how to defend from set pieces we will do well.

Think Macca deserves at least until the end of the season

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Quote: Forumjacker "Kindly desist from trying to antagonise posters.



No cos thats your job isnt it danny!!

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Quote: Craigloiner "No cos thats your job isnt it danny!!'"


Not anymore.

Kindly desist from trying to antagonise me and refer to the link I provided earlier.

Thanks in advance.

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Quote: Forumjacker "Should Prutton have been booked?'"


For his 2nd yellow yes, but if Hughes hadn't f*cked about with the ball in his own penalty box and cleared his lines properly his colleagues wouldn't have been put under undue pressure.

For the 1st yellow, depends if he commented upon the ref's obvious tendancy to masterbate a lot or not.

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Quote: Sir Daniel Anderson "Why?
Refs either try to be centre of attention at Leeds (and do it with odd decision after odd decision) and just crumble into a wreck blowing his whistle every time you lot shout. Happens regularly.

Leicester will pull away from the pack over Xmas imo and you need to sack Mac if you have any chance of challenging for 1st.'"

A bit like you lot needing rid of anderson!! icon_wink.gif

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Quote: rhinoms "A bit like you lot needing rid of anderson!!

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Quote: Forumjacker "Not anymore.

Kindly desist from trying to antagonise me and refer to the link I provided earlier.

Thanks in advance.'"



Sorry!! Was your job!!

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What a difference a year makes,last seasons table after 20 games

www.leedsunited.com/page/LeagueT ... 15,00.html

And this seasons table after 20 games

www.leedsunited.com/page/LeagueT ... 13,00.html

Only 1 point worse off than last season but our GD was alot better and our home form was too.

We only lost 9 games the whole season last year so whats gone wrong at the club?
What a difference a year makes,last seasons table after 20 games

www.leedsunited.com/page/LeagueT ... 15,00.html

And this seasons table after 20 games

www.leedsunited.com/page/LeagueT ... 13,00.html

Only 1 point worse off than last season but our GD was alot better and our home form was too.

We only lost 9 games the whole season last year so whats gone wrong at the club?


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