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| Quote Fallon="Fallon"Very interesting that Sinny offered to resign. Part of me respects that given Furner was his choice. Part of me wonders how they drifted so far apart on ideology so quickly if they had done their due diligence.
I just wonder if Agar will stay in charge (I know he has said he doesn't want to but money talks) and that will allow kev and GH to pull the strings with little resistance. In essence Agar is literally just a coach with no say in anything else. Feels like there is a bit of a power struggle going on... Or maybe I've just been watching too much Dynasty lately?'"
I don't see that. I think Sinfield and Agar are both a bit risk-adverse and understand the revolving door that is head coaching. It's not for everyone (I know Agar has been one before). If you want a steady job then head coach isn't it.
By appointing people who do thrive on that risk/reward element, they take the fall rather than you when results don't go your way.
It wouldn't surprise me if Agar got the job but I suspect not.
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| Quote lionarmour87="lionarmour87"Yes even Sinfield said in a recent TV interview when Furner was mentioned ' do we really have to go back to this? ''"
That’s different though. I thought that was poor from Sinfield. It’s reasonable to be asked those questions from the media.
It’s different to offering up gossip ala the GH article.
Though it concerns me re Sinfield, will he be unable to work with the next coach and threaten to resign again if it isn’t immediately successful?
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| It would now appear that the main reason Furner was sacked was because of a personality clash with Sinfield. Was Sinfield encroaching on Furner and cramping his style? Or was Sinfield resisting what Furner wanted to do with the squad eg getting rid and recruitment? Either way Sinfield does not come out of this well.
In my opinion a Director of Rugby should be responsible for all matters concerning rugby at the club with the exception of the first team squad which should be the total responsibility of the head coach. By the way at Super League level I wish we would use the term 1st team manager as in football and not head coach. You only should have one Captain of a ship and a senior head coach will not be happy having a DOR chipping away on his shoulder.
Sinfield was a great player and captain (aided for much of the time by JP) but he has no qualifications or experience as a senior manager, nor has he any coaching qualifications. So I fail to see what he brings to the party other than GH distancing himself from responsibility. So far he has not improved the side's performances one jot in his year in charge despite having 3 new coaches to help since Mac was sacked. Yet during this time he has recruited half a team including 2 marquee signings which is something never afforded to Mac despite the very serious injury crisis we had two years running. Sinfield's lack of man management experience could have cost us a manager and must have distracted Furner, Sinfield's team selections were odd when he was coach last year and those same odd choices were taken on by Furner which rather suggests Sinfield's influence.
KS now an be seen sitting next to Agar at matches which shows he is not able to delegate. None of this bodes well for a new coach.
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| Quote Juan Cornetto="Juan Cornetto"It would now appear that the main reason Furner was sacked was because of a personality clash with Sinfield. Was Sinfield encroaching on Furner and cramping his style? Or was Sinfield resisting what Furner wanted to do with the squad eg getting rid and recruitment? Either way Sinfield does not come out of this well.
In my opinion a Director of Rugby should be responsible for all matters concerning rugby at the club with the exception of the first team squad which should be the total responsibility of the head coach. By the way at Super League level I wish we would use the term 1st team manager as in football and not head coach. You only should have one Captain of a ship and a senior head coach will not be happy having a DOR chipping away on his shoulder.
Sinfield was a great player and captain (aided for much of the time by JP) but he has no qualifications or experience as a senior manager, nor has he any coaching qualifications. So I fail to see what he brings to the party other than GH distancing himself from responsibility. So far he has not improved the side's performances one jot in his year in charge despite having 3 new coaches to help since Mac was sacked. Yet during this time he has recruited half a team including 2 marquee signings which is something never afforded to Mac despite the very serious injury crisis we had two years running. Sinfield's lack of man management experience could have cost us a manager and must have distracted Furner, Sinfield's team selections were odd when he was coach last year and those same odd choices were taken on by Furner which rather suggests Sinfield's influence.
KS now an be seen sitting next to Agar at matches which shows he is not able to delegate. None of this bodes well for a new coach.'"
Can you get any more conjecture into a single post?
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| Quote LeedsLurch="LeedsLurch"Can you get any more conjecture into a single post?'"
This is what happens when Hetherington does these sort of things. When people have agendas they want to push, they put there own interpretion of interviews to back up that agenda, regardless of whether what was said or not true.
Juan has an issue with Sinfield and his role. Before that he had an issue with Furner appointment.
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| Quote LeedsLurch="LeedsLurch"Can you get any more conjecture into a single post?'"
I'm surprised he/she missed off the training ground flooding during Mac's tenure...
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| any excuse to glorify his hero....
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| This situation reminds me of the decline the club went into after the 1961 championship win. They decided to look for the right coach one with a plan and give him time .circa 1963_ 4 they appointed Roy Francis who came up with the golden generation of that time with several signings of experienced players .
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| Sinfield "were behind Agar and need a period of stabiity" Fans "were getting Wane then"
GH "Agar will have to the end of the season to give the club time to assess" Fans "Shane Flanagan is getting on a plane then"
Sutcliffe "its been good under Agar and it will be good to work with him for the rest of the season" Fans "Powell is gonna quit Cas this week"
JP "the club needs stability and Agar will give that" Fans "so its Ian Watson then and it will be this week"
What the hell is wrong with our fan base????
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| Quote Marty Grrrrrrrrrr!="Marty Grrrrrrrrrr!"Sinfield "were behind Agar and need a period of stabiity" Fans "were getting Wane then"
GH "Agar will have to the end of the season to give the club time to assess" Fans "Shane Flanagan is getting on a plane then"
Sutcliffe "its been good under Agar and it will be good to work with him for the rest of the season" Fans "Powell is gonna quit Cas this week"
JP "the club needs stability and Agar will give that" Fans "so its Ian Watson then and it will be this week"
What the hell is wrong with our fan base????'"
Whatever you do don’t go and look at Facebook comments from some of our fans, I unfortunately did yesterday, the term ‘know nowts’ has never been so apt
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| I would suggest none of us have the faintest idea as to the ongoing strategy of the higher echelons of the Rhinos management group
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| I’m not bothered that we don’t know, but I’d like to think they do...
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