How do you know he's a yes man?

Do you really know there was poison?
By backing Furner that's something we will never know what we do know is Agar kept us up. Whether he can take us further that we will see. I Ddo have my doubts but that is more to do with the poor squad rather than Agar coaching ability.

Absolutely spot on Christopher

From speaking to the man himself he had falling out with Sinfield and hetherington, and as a result the players. Told a fair few some home truths. Told the board x y z need to go and we need new players was told no money to spend and the players had to stay. Few with noses out of place. Ironically when it was clear we were crap money was found. Granted it’s not an unbiased account I tend to believe it. Building a team on the cheap then forced to pay over the odds for desperation signings like Lui.

All ifs and maybes after round 1 you can tell it’s going to be a fruitless year again just need to improve and build hopefully.

Just one thing, you say Ryan Carr worked but then the next scentence say you don’t get the structure of part time having impact?

Ryan Carr was part time.

You may be correct in your last statement!

You can’t tell anything from round 1 at all, especially a game where we lost a centre and our captain for a huge chunk of the game and our first choice prop was missy, would you have thought saints would get nilled in their second game?

I do know that he challenged JJB after the Salford game about his attitude and putting on injuries, stating he needed to go, having challenged him the previous weeks. After that game Sinfield and GH were put in a position who they backed, and Furner went.

From that, middle of last season is when I stated on here that we won't appoint a proper coach, and will limp along for JJB to take over when qualified. Its a bit of a coincidence that seems to be happening.

If that's the case I'm not surprised Furner went

It’s not just one game though same mistakes and deficiencies as last year as well. I saw we may be a little better than last year. But you can certainly tell from just one round we won’t be winning the league trophies this year.

Years ago as a kid I used to hear rumours about dressing room bust ups and the reason Jeff Stevenson left etc and this latest stuff is no different. However who identified Furner as the next coach and why ? What did they see in him to team build and see the transition through?

Why are you not surprised? isn't that exactly what most people are saying to you, that we are obsessed with the wrong things? If JJB was a problem, why was Furner held responsible for it and JJB rewarded?

JJB has a 20+ year career for the Rhinos, giving his all and the new coach comes in and questions his commitment? all I am saying is it isn't surprising Sinfield and Hetherington took JJBs side and not Furners, maybe if Furner had come in and done a great job he might have had more than a good case but he was doing a crap job, 4 from 14 we were when he got sacked.