Agree. Not sure the about the point on outcomes either. Salford reached the GF in 2019, the challenge Cup in 2020 and are 80 mins from reaching the big dance again. Teams like Cas, Hudds and Catalans have also reached showpiece occasions over the last couple of seasons. We currently have a great Saints side who have clearly been the best team over the last few years, but that won't last forever. Quality wise I reckon most Leeds fans would say the gamed peaked between 2004 and 2015 - funny that! Get rid of the current overzealous officiating and I would say the game is still a great product. Crowd figures are pretty flat but they aren't dropping off a cliff, and a successful Leeds side (and now there is real hope) would soon boost averages across the game. I do wonder if a lot of Leeds fans who have seemingly given up hope on the game were hopelessly spoiled by the greatest unbroken spell of success in the clubs history and just can't cope that we aren't top dogs anymore. But you never know, things can and do change.

Prior might get stung not on the “not a head butt” but looks like he may have stood in Tompkins arm after he fell down play acting, hard to say whether it was a stumble or deliberately.
Bentley will get banned theirs a witch hunt to get at least 2 Leeds players banned.

I didn`t see the Bentley or Prior incident clearly but neither looked anything from the bit I did see.
Prior leans into Tomkins who goes down like he`s been shot.
Bentley I thought was only putting an arm across their player not a deliberate forearm.
But we know what will happen.

Cas, Saints and Wigan fans use their own forums now, so that's probably why the inter team banter has ceased.

Newman will play Friday - trust me

Assuming we don’t get any bans (I know, bear with me…) then who drops out for Newman? My money would be on Tindall, who I think had a decent game but is clearly the least experienced and would be most targeted of the backs. Hardaker would go to the Wing.

I think so.
Or Sutcliffe to second row with Martin, Gannon and possibly Bentley missing.

Also what if fusitua plays. Then you might go
1. Myler
2. Fusitua
3. Newman
4. Sutcliffe
5. Hardaker
6. Austin
7. Sezer

Maybe briscoe gets a bench spot as potential for Newman and fusitua to break down again

Saints have dropped standards, Leeds have dropped further

Titles winners since 2006

saints
leeds
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wigan
leeds
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leeds
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This year - Saints.

That's my point on outcomes, born out over 15 years.

*Pedant Mode On* That's 16 years *Pedant Mode Off*

"This year - Saints."

Don't jump the gun...