...and that's the annoying thing. We know what this team is capable of and to compare last night's performance with the WCC and they're a million miles apart.

sal all fans want quality performances and on a more regular basis,after all this is the entertainment business,but due to the way that the play off system works at present we do not need to perform to this level on a regular basis unfortunately,this has been proved without a doubt these past 2 seasons has it not?

other sl sides like wigan and warrington have recently perfected the art of producing more quality performances for their demanding fans during the weekly rounds and have been rewarded with a shiny hub cap,but in doing so they subsequently ran themselves flat in the weekly rounds and had nothing left in the tank come play off time

i personally believe that we will see plenty more of these sub standard performances this season,but probably now more widespread across the board too as surely wigan and warrington must now realise that it's not how you start but how you finish

sal i am a season ticket holder too and one that shares your frustrations,i have often discussed this subject with the rhinos players when they have been in the stanningley club house and have been regularly told to judge them when the games that matter come around

under the current play off system they clearly have a point do they not?

I agree - but the season ticket sales are down year on year and this will continue if the team continue to put in performances like this on as regular a basis. It suggests to me the depth of the squad is not what it should be, so that begs a question as to where is the money going? With the revenue from games dropping that will only mean one thing cut backs on the playing and coaching - one thing is for certain the CEO is not going to take a cut.

Well tell that to the OP who said ''the person who should have been the future of our front row, Mr Burgess, was ripping up trees for Souths on Thursday''.

I presume he meant Luke as he is the former Leeds player out of the Burgess brothers.

Yeah because guitarists have 17 other guitarists trying to stop them playing their chords correctly

.Comparing sportsmen making mistakes to musicians forgetting songs is one of the dumbest comparisons i've ever read/heard.

Sports is ALWAYS a gamble to spend money on, a boxing match could last 1 Round, a day at the cricket could be largely rained-off, the horse you've backed could fall at the 1st hurdle etc.

You would think the way some go on on here that they ALWAYS perform to a certain standard whenever they've played sports whether it be RL or something else.........I seriously doubt that though. Along will come the cry of ''but we aren't payed to perform'', but sorry, just because you're payed to play sports still doesn't mean you'll get it right everytime........but I guess in the workplace where you ARE payed you never make errors

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If you're determined that you MUST get some certain amount of value for your ticket then I suggest that you should avoid sport events, probably best the cinema too just in case the film you've heard so much about turns out to be rubbish.

I believe he was referring to George rather than Sam or Luke as he was the only Burgess that played last week for Souths that was also at Leeds.

God, 7 days in sport is a long time for some people's memories.

Reading through some of the posters and threads they've been quick to roll out the old and very tedious ''Leeds don't care about the regular season''.

Strange considering people were full of praise last week for the professional job we did going away to Saints, likewise.....
- Hudds were poor last week, good this one
- Cas put up a good fight this week, definately not this week
- Saints disappointing last week, very good this week
- Bradford very good last week, to unable to finish off 12 men
- Hull disappointing last week, very good this week

It happens, get over it.

But it seems to be spreading all over the league that if a team lose it MUST be because they know it doesn't matter because of the Playoffs, so explain other sporting events like......

2011/12 - Man Utd 1 - 6 Man City (this ultimately cost them the title)
2008 - Manly 40 - 0 Melbourne (in a GRAND FINAL match)
2012 - Rory McIlroy doesn't make the cut at one of the 4 Majors (US Open)
2010 - England win the Ashes by winning THREE tests with an innings to spare.
2007 - Even though they win Grand Slams in '05 & '08, Wales can't even get out of the group stage at the Rugby World Cup.
2013 - In a non-playoff league, Man City (already behind Man Utd by 9 points) put in a woeful performance to lose 3-1 to relegation contenders Southampton
2010 - Leeds 6 - 30 Warrington (CC FINAL)

All of these poor results even in 'critical' occasions show that bad results/performances happen in sport regardless of the importance. Seems to be more a lazy excuse from some RL fans to dismiss a defeat as 'not important' simply because of the stick they get from rival fans in defeat and to downplay the other team's good victory.

Some people shouldn't watch sport at all, they take it all far too seriously, like it actually means something in their lives, which is sad if it does (unless you're employed in said sport, in which case you get to sit in coffee shops laughing at your own supporters opinions).

As a remote fan i used to come up for 5 or 6 games a season, but these days the hassle of the m1 on a friday evening is just not worth it if the team are on a 'down' week. I only bother for games that we are likely to be up for, like the WCC.

unfortunately i think that is unrealistic. Performances like that are not sustainable over a long period. This group of players has shown an ability to raise their game to a level that others cant hit, but that has a pay back in term of what it does to your body. Our club has been unrivalled in getting our key players available and at 100% come play off time. Question is do people want an entertaining team, or a sucessful one?

To some extent we shkuld make hay whilst the sun shines. We may have to wait a long time for another group of players a special a this one. I'd prefer to see this group continue to write they name into the history books, but then again, I'm not a season ticket holder

This is the entertainment business - too often Leeds have put in performances like Friday night in the last two years. Watkins didn't have anyone near him when he knocked on - so your 17 guys doesn't hold water. These are elite sportsmen that should be able to do the basics like correctly passing the ball - playing the ball correctly is that really asking too much?

Of course I make errors at work - mainly judgement calls - sometimes they work sometimes they don't but I don't make errors with the basics like adding spreadsheets up etc

As I said before I just want to see a level of performance close to the WCC on a more regular basis - I don't mind losing but when the team put in a performance lack Friday that is frustrating.