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| Quote nantwichexile="nantwichexile"
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| I remember saying to G1 a couple of years ago that I could envisage Hall in the no 4 spot.
G1's response was that he was fine where he was, why move him? ... And that was fair enough, why move him for the sake of it?
But I still rather fancy he'd be very good in that role.
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| Hall's big and powerful, but he's a finisher and runner. I haven't seen anything that suggests that he's a player who will make space and opportunities for a winger playing outside him, which is what a good centre should do. On the other hand he's among the best in the world at what wingers do. I can't see any case at all for moving him from the wing.
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| With some of Halls positional play in defence you'd think he was the centre.
Sticking boot into our (Leeds + Englands) premier winger. Classic gobe BB 
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| Although I wouldn't move Hall to the centre, who says a centre has to be creative. If Hall was to move to centre, he would be likely to get earlier more quality ball which could make him more devastating. If he is finishing chances and scoring 30+ tries then I wouldn't see the problem in it. Sometimes wingers can be anonymous because they aren't getting the opportunities, bringing them in field can make them more effective.
I personally think Hall would be more effective on the wing than centre though, although it'd be interesting to see him play at centre a couple of times and see how it goes.
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| Quote rugbyleague88="rugbyleague88"Although I wouldn't move Hall to the centre, who says a centre has to be creative. If Hall was to move to centre, he would be likely to get earlier more quality ball which could make him more devastating. If he is finishing chances and scoring 30+ tries then I wouldn't see the problem in it. Sometimes wingers can be anonymous because they aren't getting the opportunities, bringing them in field can make them more effective.'"
Lots of fans weren't happy when Hardaker scored lots of tries at centre without creating much for his wingman. Why would we be happy for Hall to take up this role instead?
Let's leave Ablett there unless a better replacement can be found elsewhere, or if Keinhorst is able to step up.
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| I think the rejected offer for Lulia was made public simply to reassure the remaining Bulls fans that they mean business next year.
Bradford desperately need an upward turn in their revenue streams and the ONLY way to sustainably do this is with on-field success. If you sell all the family silverware you end up eating with your fingers.
...and all this 'Hall to centre' nonsense!!
There's a reason he's called the "Worlds Best Winger" and it's not because he should be playing at centre. Maybe in a few years when he's lost a yard or two of pace but next season???? Really???
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| Quote rugbyleague88="rugbyleague88"Although I wouldn't move Hall to the centre, who says a centre has to be creative. If Hall was to move to centre, he would be likely to get earlier more quality ball which could make him more devastating. If he is finishing chances and scoring 30+ tries then I wouldn't see the problem in it. Sometimes wingers can be anonymous because they aren't getting the opportunities, bringing them in field can make them more effective.
I personally think Hall would be more effective on the wing than centre though, although it'd be interesting to see him play at centre a couple of times and see how it goes.'"
Being entirely serious this reflects my train of thought.
Hall is a fabulous finisher perhaps lacking a bit of pace (but then that never did Alan Smith much harm), but as with Watkins, Leeds need to find a way to put the ball into his hands more often.
(Hall outside Watkins on the right would at least guarantee Hall getting increased quality ball).
Personally I would be seriously indifferent to Leeds signing any centre other than somebody of the quality of Ingliss of course. Ablett and Keinhorst offer plenty enough for SL in the LC position IMO. Leeds need to focus more on the shape of the future pack this coming season........and I don't mean with a hooker who cannot defend down the middle.
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| Quote nantwichexile="nantwichexile"Quote nantwichexile="rugbyleague88"Although I wouldn't move Hall to the centre, who says a centre has to be creative. If Hall was to move to centre, he would be likely to get earlier more quality ball which could make him more devastating. If he is finishing chances and scoring 30+ tries then I wouldn't see the problem in it. Sometimes wingers can be anonymous because they aren't getting the opportunities, bringing them in field can make them more effective.
I personally think Hall would be more effective on the wing than centre though, although it'd be interesting to see him play at centre a couple of times and see how it goes.'"
Being entirely serious this reflects my train of thought.
Hall is a fabulous finisher perhaps lacking a bit of pace (but then that never did Alan Smith much harm), but as with Watkins, Leeds need to find a way to put the ball into his hands more often.
(Hall outside Watkins on the right would at least guarantee Hall getting increased quality ball).
Personally I would be seriously indifferent to Leeds signing any centre other than somebody of the quality of Ingliss of course. Ablett and Keinhorst offer plenty enough for SL in the LC position IMO. Leeds need to focus more on the shape of the future pack this coming season........and I don't mean with a hooker who cannot defend down the middle.'"
For me, having Hall and Watkins on one side does sound excellent. However, I think its a bit of a case of eggs in one basket. Teams can plan better if the 2 main strike players are on the same side. With them separated the threat comes from both sides, with the effort and impact more level left to right.
Also, increasing the amount of ball a strike player gets won't increase the output in a linear fashion. Watkins is a quality player who makes tries happen. Doubling his workload could arguably result in him becoming less effective. Get the ball to him in the right situations and he will make tries
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| re: moving Hall to the right, BJB it must be remembered was the 7th highest tryscorer in all competitions last year, he's certainly no slouch. Only Tomkins, Charnley, Hall, Riley, Monaghan & Wellens scored more tries. And with McGuire, Watkins & Hardaker all getting past the 20-try mark as well, he's got plenty of competition for finishing.
As for a breakdown of next year's 1-5 in this year's tryscoring:
1. Hardaker: 21 tries
2. Jones-Bishop: 23 tries
3. Watkins: 20 tries
4. Ablett: 13 tries
5. Hall: 33 tries.
Outside the back five, McGuire got 22, Burrow got 12, Lunt got 9 and Sinfield got 7.
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| Lulia ? no thanks
Anyone who thinks he would be an improvement on the hugely underated Ablett are kidding themselves , big Carl by plenty .
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| Lulia offers a lot more in attack and would put Hall in for a lot more tries but Ablett is very strong defensively, is hard to stop from 10 metres out and is very capable of drawing his men and putting Hall into space. I wouldn't mind Lulia but it isn't a necessity. A hooker or a massive human wrecking 2nd row would be more ideal!
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