I don't have Senior's career stats but he played 365 total at Leeds plus 92 SL games for Sheffield. So that's 457 + pre SL Era at Sheffield + Challenge Cup games with Sheffield (in excess of 50 combined?) + Internationals (in excess of 40?)

That would place him around the 550 mark in his 1st grade career so if he has a target in mind it will likely as not be 600.

Otherwise I agree, I don't see Senior willing to return in a mentoring role at least not until he has reached his target/retired from playing.

Has he said he has a target? Can you point me to said article?

Yes I believe he has.

No I can't point you to said article at this moment.

Do you wish to state that he categorically hasn't? That could motivate me to find it for you.

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Thanks for that Tony, saved me the effort.



Is that a euphemism?

Spot on you handsome young man.

Ablett and Tomkins, J having put in some top quality displays in the centre position.

Why pigeon hole players? They're playing centre, they're playing well, therefore, for now, they're centres.

Something folk on here seem to have difficulty with in general.

See also the discussions over Sinfield not being a stand-off and McGuire not a scrum-half. Has where they are named on the team sheet radically altered the role they have been expected to play in the side (other than Sinfield defending a couple of spots wider)?

The game is very different now to twenty and thirty years ago. Players are very interchangeable.

In the 80s wingers were skinny and fast, forwards were big and slow and the really fat, big slow ones were props the others were second rowers.

Full time professionalism and the aping of Australian tactics has meant Rugby League players is far less specialised than in the past.

Whether that is a good or bad thing is another discussion.

This is true.

I think it's more important that certain roles are filled, and there are still variations in the physical attributes needed to fill them.

For instance, the need for a number of players who can lump the ball up the field in an uncomplicated way persists. You need these because this is where platforms are laid, and the slower, more predictable way in which this is done is efficient and actually allows a stable platform to launch a move from. This requires a solid build which withstands repeated contact and easily builds forward momentum. In the past there was more fat than you see now, but the need for big units persists.

Similarly there is still a need for players who are fleet of foot and coordinated. These don't have to be smaller and more slender, but finding those traits in a big unit is more rare. So slighter, more wick players are still found.

Where these people pack down and appear in the defensive line is more blurred, but the roles still exist.

Quite why scrum halves are still always under 5'8" is a bit of a mystery...

Right ...Kirke shall henceforth be called a prop and Burrow a hooker.

So as not to be "pigeon holed" what would you refer to a player's position as when he consistently starts on the bench ?