Indeed ... One of the big reasons why Squeef was owned by Henry Faa'filli at Huddersfield for New Zealand in (IIRC) 2004

I don't think he was on his own with inept defence from kicks we resembled the chuckle brothers in defence "to me to you"!

Keith looked very out of position today, possibly a season too far for me.

Kyle Briggs got the better of him time and time again today.

I love Senior but today he was thoroughly woeful. Numerous knock ons, dodgy in defence, the high ball shenanigans. Only good thing i can remember is the quick no look pass to hall for our 2nd try.

My back line would be:

Webb, Hall, Smith, Watkins, BJB, McGuire, Burrow (obviously Sinny in for Mags at this point)

Senior just had a bad game today and he will hit back. His ability to create good passes will be a joy to watch throughout the season hopefully. You only have to look at Cliff Lyons with the Legends of Origin match to see that true greats never really lose it.

senior is not, and never was, in lyons class.

Executing good passes has never been a consistent part of Senior's armoury either. He's average in that department at best, and when he's below average his pass often ends up on the deck or in Row Z.

Senior's main attributes throughout his career have been:

1. His injury-free record and consistent availability for selection.
2. His power in attack.
3. His pace in attack.

He's primarily a strong biff and barge merchant. He's not, and never has been a particularly skilful player in any department.

My God, I'm in shock. A complete post of Jeff's that I agreed with....

me too. see jeff, you can do it if you really try

I agree that for most of his career he was a biff and barge merchant and very good at it. However in the last few years I have seen Keith Senior develop a fantastic partnership with Ryan Hall. Unless I’m just imagining that Keith Senior was the last hands in the passages of play before Hall has gone in for a try, I think that Keith has actually got better since retiring from international rugby.

I do know that opta keep stats and will be finding the stats sometime through this week to back my point up. At the moment I’m on row Z and it’ll take a Keith Senior pass into it to wake me up

Over the years I have watched Senior I know he has been the heart of the best Leeds wing Partnership and whenever this has been in doubt he has switched wings to help cover the weakness! Great Pro and can I bid for his 400 shirt?

You have to hope he is not going play that much this season - his defense has always been suspect even in his prime today it would have been funny had it not been so bad.

What's the betting he gets another contract extension about June