I'm going to stick up for Brown here on the "what has he won" stakes. Yes he had a talented team in the NRL and never got them over the line but he was a young coach and played with the majority of players that he had to tell what to do. That's a hard thing to do, just ask Darryl Powell.

Confusing argument:

Smith - won promotion before joining Leeds

Daniel Anderson - won Coach Of The Year when he was at Warriors IIRC before Saints.

Millward - zilch at Leigh. But turned them from a relegation fearing side to a top side in that division. Which is winning of sorts.

So the above have done something there haven't they before they have gone on to bigger pictures.

I'm interested to know what's he won?? Don't see why it's a bad question to ask?? Honest question - honest answer please.

Some people are very defensive over fair questions.

If you think getting a team relegated (with a record number of consecutive defeats for a coach who has held on to his job in British Rugby League) then winning a part time league with a full time side is more of an achievement than what Brown has done with Huddersfield, I fear there is little point debating this.

Where have I said:

'winning a part time league with a full time side is more of an achievement than what Brown has done with Huddersfield'

I haven't. You are lying. Simple as that.

I showed you the respect of answering your simple question:

What has Smith won?

I answered that easy question with a fact and then you scorn.

Hmmmm.

You are being very creative with my words and you don't structure your point well at all so there is no point discussing this with you.

'you fear' - not for the first time I bet.

I have no idea what that's meant to mean

Dave Clarke won the Championship with Barrow last year, perhaps he'd be a better bet than Nathan Brown, who has of course never won anything.

I look at whether a coach has improved a team.

Tony Smith inherited a great squad at Leeds and didn't have too much to do in terms of personnel but, no doubt, he made a vast improvement.

I look at Huddersfield under Brown's tutelage and, again, he has improved them significantly.

Shocker.





I wouldn't say or suggest that. I would acknowledge Clarkies achievement. Would you?

John Kear improved Wakey also. But I would burn my season ticket if the club ever considered appointing him.

I've just emailed the suggestion to Mr Hetherington.

That's a bit harsh Gotcha!
What happened when we appointed an untested Bell or powell?
Did you burn yer season ticket then ?
I'd be very surprised if Bluey did move on after this season and i've already posted who i'd like to see if that occurred but surely you'd support whoever GH brought in especially someone like Kear.

Thanks for explaining.



Of course I would, it's a far greater achievement than doing it with a full time squad in a part time league.

Barrow are full time and throwing money around for fun,in fact their owner tried to block the decrease in the salary cap so he could invest even more in players.