Quote Rogues Gallery="Rogues Gallery"The bonus does NOT count on the cap. Operational Rules part 5 Section E1 See Section 5C 5.7.1 It's a very good reference document. www.therfl.co.uk/about/page.php?id=161&areaid=44'" That all seems reasonable to me - basic pay + some performance related pay(excluded from the cap) for final standings in the 3 competitions you are involved in. +MoS of course - I didn't realise the MoS got a bit of cash for it?

Quote Rogues Gallery="Rogues Gallery"The bonus does NOT count on the cap. Operational Rules part 5 Section E1 See Section 5C 5.7.1 It's a very good reference document. www.therfl.co.uk/about/page.php?id=161&areaid=44'" That all seems reasonable to me - basic pay + some performance related pay(excluded from the cap) for final standings in the 3 competitions you are involved in. +MoS of course - I didn't realise the MoS got a bit of cash for it?

Its an interesting exception that, doesn't really sit with the idea that the salary cap is used to level out the competition.

A £100k contract at Leeds or St Helens over the last 6 years must have been worth significantly more than a £100k contract at castleford or even Wigan

IIRC though, don't bonuses paid for being selected for the GB squad count in the cap? This is what Bradford and Wigan claimed pushed them over the cap limit a couple of season back I think.

Don't know about them but it was the excuse given by St Helens one year for a minor breach after Ade Gardner somehow managed to get himself a mid season International cap.



If winning trophies is a method of getting round the cap I wonder why everyone doesn't do it.

Those players you alluded to have been busting a gut every time they walk on to a rugby pitch, is it the lack of effort or form you are upset about because every players seem to give 100% effort to me. And if its form that is a factor that players have limited control over and have to continually work on, Are you at the "top of your game" every time you go to work?

But surely this particular game would be exceptional to the salary cap.

Only one team can appear in it. Therefore it would be unfair to penalise that team that appears in it by including any payments in the cap. That would immediately put that team at a disadvantage to the other sides, as the other sides are not taking part.

The cap for leveling out the competition is exactly that, for the Super League competition. The WCC is outside the super league competition.

Very astute Gotcha.

I, for one, would prefer if this were kept inside the dressing room, at least until after the event.

Yet you were fairly critical of him last year for not spending up to the cap and not strengthening the 3rd consecutive title winning squad to your satisfaction.

I've never heard of the reigning SL Champions being given a different salary cap allowance to the rest of the comp in recognition of this extra fixture.

The Leeds players are contracted from November to October. That they will have to take part in this extra fixture (over and above their SL duties) by comparison with the rest of the SL teams is the price they pay for being successful the previous year.

The only payment I've seen as been outside the salary cap calculation is the payment of any bonus received as a share of the prize money paid out by the RFL.

But that's being fairly obtuse when the regulations themselves envisage and allow the club to pass on all or part of any prize money without it being included in the salary cap.

I know you're discussing the issue with Gotcha but I thought he was being clear and you're attempting to knit fog.

As was the CEO himself who perhaps like me had ambitions of retaining the WCC and having a successful run in the Challenge Cup given a favourable draw, as well as retaining the title.

I blame the up coming X factor gig for our poor start to the season...very distracting IMHO.