As far as eras go I'd say this side is right up there but not quite as good in terms of achievements as the late 60s-mid 70s side. They won the Championship twice (69 and 71), plus the Challenge Cup in 68, 77 and 78, a couple of Premierships, John Player, Floodlit and several Yorkshire Cups. And they did this when there were frankly more competitive sides about and in between times several of our team helped win the World Cup - so the same players could genuinely say they were the best in the world.

I know someone who will be saying Schofield. But yeah for most generations this club has been blessed with some very talented players and captains. As supporters of this club this is something we can be very proud of.

Was it David Bywater?

Captains are like coaches - whenever the team is struggling, it's their fault that everyone else is missing tackles and dropping passes. Whenever the team is winning however, their contribution gets overlooked.

Agreed.

Sinfield's achievements in the game leave Hynes in his shadow.

Sinfield is clearly the biggest legend the club have ever had.

As a player, as a captain or as a coach?

A player and a captain.

Has Sinfield done any coaching?

Nobody has mentioned Francis Cummins yet, strange.

As a player and a captain. Can I ask what that is based on?

I'd imagine you've been around to watch Sinfield's career but doubt you saw very much of Hynes'

itsnice to look back i was a little boy when McLlellen was capt and remember the 1957 cup final,but that was MACs only trophy although he may have won the yorkshire cup in 1958.what i do remember about Mcllellen was the way he used to bo11--k the players during the game.older blokes around that time used to say jim brough was the greatest capt ,before that it will have been joe thompson.
Sinny has captained leeds to 3 grand final wins as old as i am that will do for me .
by the time he has finished he will be regarded as leeds greats capt and the most successful

good thread though, my old mans cousin won the lance todd under kieth mclellan, maybe thats why he rates him, opinions count, remember GB were world champions 50's -70's, now they are whipping boys & sinfield can't get a start.

Captained us to an unheralded 3 championships.

You rate Kevin Sinfield a better player than Syd Hynes based on captaining Championship winning sides?

Did you see Syd Hynes make any of his 366 Leeds appearances or 13 for Great Britain including his outstanding performances in GB's last Ashes series win and that came in Australia.

Kevin Sinfield (good club man that he is) has some way to go.

Not to agree or disagree with your overall point, but that part is totally irrelevant, since the players they were up against were also part-time. If you trained 5 hours a week and drank like the proverbial fish in the modern game you'd get taken to the cleaners, no matter how gifted you were.

I've tried that argument on the Wigan board but they won't have it, all British players are garbage since wigan stopped winning things.

This has nothing to do with Syd Hynes as I have never seen him play.