No, he just purposely misquoted. Happens a lot on here.

Keep on eye on Tad, he's been throwing the insults around quite a lot recently.
Jennifer Anniston and/or Halle Berry must've dumped him, poor lad.

If this is true, then it's not that unusual. Remember Gaskill and Lomax were touted as England's future saviours at 6 & 7. Now both doing alright at full back. Maybe Sutty can do a job for us (but not as a 1 or 6).

Could fully understand that if he was specific about an individual player, and he was talking about a youngster. He wasn't though. He was talking about the half backs in relation to criticism. And Sutcliffe is as near to a veteran now as he is going to be. I mean how many games does he have to play before people stop with the youngster tag? He's played more games than George Williams. Another season and he will be around the same games as Marc Sneyd currently as.

He's actually only played around 10 more games than George Williams and about 50 less than Sneyd who is 4 years older. I'd class players as youngsters until at least 24/25 because it's not just about experience, but maturity and ability to deal with criticism.

Perhaps he referred to the half backs as a pairing as the need to protect them from critics, at least externally is as important whether your the 22 year old Sutty or 35 year old Burrow?

I do like Sutcliffe as a player and think a lot of the stuff posted on here is harsh. None of our key area players were particularly creative - burrow, cuthbertson, hooker and fullback. Long term would see Sutcliffe as a good back rower.

I think he could do short term a decent job at centre and I would prefer Joel Moon given a run at stand off. He's decent with ball in hand and an illusive runner who can kick well close to the line. Great defender also. Lilley's lack of pace and suspect defense rules him out as a long term answer.

Fundamentally we do seem to be short on attacking structure/ideas which has been evident for years. This I believe to be a coaching issue whether by choice or failure in the abilities of our coaching staff.

Unfortunately mags for me is done. Fantastic player and great clubman but he is physically shot.

The stand off issue needs sorting this year before our next round of retirements kicks in.

only two idiots on this forum

Sinners are welcomed. Even "leftist" sinners.

Assuming your theory is correct and VERY GOOD is simply McDermott code for not criticising the performance of individuals, then I shudder to think what GOOD might represent.

Perhaps GOOD may be indicative of his honest opinion of Leeds kicking game?

As I said, more games than Williams, and around the same games by the end of this season as Sneyd as now. Would you consider Sneyd a youngster right now? No you wouldn't simply because of his birth certificate, which to be honest is irrelevent. All of these players have been playing for years through junior rugby and beyond. The number of games at top level determines their experience, not their birth certificate. Even then somebody over 20 I would not consider a youngster in the slightest, they are beyond the age of playing any other age group, and only open age is open to them.

But the time you have played 50 games, never mind around a hundred, you should have enough about you to handle all scenarios.

I am in agreement with others that there is a player in Sutcliffe, just not a pivot. Centre definitely, second row probably.

Come on the S !



I've rarely made a right turn in my life.

Well, apart from voting for New Labour in 1997 which I regretted within a week.

Thought Sutcliffe ran hard and tackled well, supported well, and made a couple of half breaks. Considering this was a game no half-back broke open, its strange to see Sutcliffe thrown under the bus for it.