Does Hull's signing of Ellis mean that they'll now be included in your helpful mini league table showing how the big guns are faring against each other? Come to think of it, I haven't seen it for a while. Would you mind updating it?

Hopefully Ellis will be as important to us than Jamie Peacock has been for you, I always find it odd you'd accuse a very good servant to your club to be 'topping up his pension'.

I don't hactually think any actually have accused Ellis of that, and I am sure he will get a good reception when he runs out at headingley against leeds

If anybody has said that, they'd be a minority.

A fw have said he'd want to make sure the money was right in his last big contract, but I doubt any Hull fan would disagree with that.

But hey, if you want to invent stuff in order to give yourself something to argue with, knock yourself out.

Its sad for Hull fans that them winning a CC final 7 years ago is the only leverage point they have over Leeds.

They've had plenty of our rejects in the last few years: Carvell, Dowes, Raynor etc.

Spending money willy-nilly on players like Seymour, McKinnon & Westeman (s) does smack of desperation.

You'd have thought they'd ploughed some cash into their youth system, looks like Tom Briscoe's had enough - he obviously doesn't think they are 'ambitious' - perhaps it is the ££££ and the relationship from Wests with Gentle that swayed Ellis.

He will be 31 by the time he gets to Hull - no spring chicken.

As for Leeds - someone better will crop up - and if not, why not put that money into Chisholm, Keinhorst, Ward, Hood, Singleton etc?



Hull FC are the Stoke City of Rugby League, and Ellis is their Peter Crouch.

This place is funny. Perhaps I should come here more ....

With you on this, Gotcha. Ablett must be one of the most under rated players around.

I just never understand why oppossition fans, christ even some of our own, seriously undervalue what Ablett does for us. There is some good backrowers in this competition, and as I mentioned Westwood is a seriously good one, as will be Ellis, but Ablett is a match for anyone, and outstanding player.

Riiigghhtt. So, if Hull's support is so loyal, how come there's an 8 page thread over on your board bemoaning the drop off in support since 2006?

Only saying like fickle as f@@k

Opposing fans' views of our players ceased to amaze as soon as it dawned on me how many harbour a near psychotic belief that there's no quality whatsoever in the 5xGF winning team.

I don't recall too many of our own slating Ablett but neither does he seem to get the praise he deserves. TBH I'm not convinced that swapping him for Westwood would pay off. Benny's good, but who knows what he'd be like if removed from his comfort zone at Wire. Ellis, on the other hand, has proved he can move between good sides and maintain form so I expect he'll go well at Hull. And best of luck to him.

I think some are missing the point that it is JJB, Ablett, Delaney as a unit that are the best currently in SL and a big reason for Leeds's success so far this year. So in a team game like RL having Ellis without 2 other top backrowers will not achieve the same performance that the Leeds 3 are achieving. IMO of the 3 it is Delaney that is the most underated.