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Quote: mightyzeus "The yorkshire evening post think it's a done deal

From the article about Lee being out of Fridays squad

"Smith - who is ironically set to join Wasps rugby union club next season - suffered the bite on Saturday and started a course of treatment from the club doctor on Monday.The swelling on his knee had not subsided by yesterday and he underwent surgery to drain an abscess from the infection".'"


So which "insect" in the St Helens team was responsible for biting Lee

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Quote: jimmyv001 "at what point will the club confirm/deny whether Smith is actually off to wasps? '"


I suspect the club have already been informed unless you actually believe the insect bite story. icon_wink.gif

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Quote: tvoc "I suspect the club have already been informed unless you actually believe the insect bite story.
At least it's a bit more subtle than he getting stung

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Quote: DISA "Smith started off last season just the same as this. '"
In your opinion. Not Mclennans'.

Quote: DISA "Difference is he was rotated with a less talented player (at the time) in Hall, because Bluey was trying to decide what his best formation was.
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How dare a new coach try different players to determine hi best formation!!!!!

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Smith was better thatn other players in the team, who were not rotated in this way. '"
Again, in your opinion, but who do you mean??

Quote: DISA "He then had off field problems, Not his own making, but his families. The club took him out of the limelight, which frustrated Smith. Had it would have done with any other player, and indeed any one of you posting on here.

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Do you think the club were right to do that? If they were then Smith needed to grow up, show our great club some respect and act in a way befitting someone who is priviliged to don the blue and amber.

Quote: DISA "Wigan approached Leeds to sign him. Leeds decided, yes let him go, and let Wigan talk to Smith. Smith did not want to leave Leeds, so nothing further materialized.
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Did they? Evidence?

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Hetherington realized come end of season it would have been one of his biggest cockups had Smith actually left, and now he is one of the most valuable members of team.
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Quantify why it would've been one of his biggest cockups? Is he one of the most valuable members of the team? In what way?

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Quote: G1 "If they were then Smith needed to grow up'"


The fact he was willing to try the "I don't know where that five grand came from your honour" defence would indicate he's not the smartest or most mature knife in the drawer.

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Quote: G1 "In your opinion. Not Mclennans'.

How dare a new coach try different players to determine hi best formation!!!!!

Again, in your opinion, but who do you mean??

Do you think the club were right to do that? If they were then Smith needed to grow up, show our great club some respect and act in a way befitting someone who is priviliged to don the blue and amber.

Did they? Evidence?

Quantify why it would've been one of his biggest cockups? Is he one of the most valuable members of the team? In what way?'"


icon_lol.gif I cant be bothered digging up old ground Gareth. You know the answers to all those questions. I suspect you might even in truth feel the same.

Your on a role, aim it where it is needed, against the others. icon_wink.gif

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Quote: Andy Gilder "The fact he was willing to try the "I don't know where that five grand came from your honour" defence would indicate he's not the smartest or most mature knife in the drawer.'"
Indeed and unlike some I assume Mr Hetherington will need convincing that Mr Smith has truly mended his ways before he thrusts a long, lucrative contract taking up a lot of cap space into the hands of a young man who not 9 months ago was, well, let's just say, flirting with the wrong side of the law.

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Quote: tvoc "Smith did nothing ]on the field to lose his spot in the first place]. Therefore there was no need to re-earn it either. There were off-field issues but whether they formed any part in his not playing appear pure speculation.




Either he goes or the YEP will have enough egg on their face to feed the entire supporter base.'"

Neither did ryan hall and imo bluey was assessing both of them in that position which isn't a bad thing either!!

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Your on a role, aim it where it is needed, against the others. icon_lol.gif

You're much better sport shag.

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Quote: G1 "They report me to the mods and threaten to sue me.
icon_lol.gif Can you wait till next week then? Its a nice break for me.

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Quote: DISA "Just because the sun is shining............yes.

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Quote: rhinoms "Neither did ryan hall and imo bluey was assessing both of them in that position which isn't a bad thing either!!'"


Smith was the better player in that position at that time. If McClennan couldn't see that he wouldn't be much of a judge.

However off the field he'd be the one to know what was the issue.

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Quote: tvoc "Smith was the better player in that position at that time. If McClennan couldn't see that he wouldn't be much of a judge.

However off the field he'd be the one to know what was the issue.'"
Akshwally cast yer mind back. Smith scored 2 tries against KR in the 1st game last year. His all around game was poor though. Mclennan commented on this.

The revisionists who now proclaim Smith as the Messiah weren't up in arms when he was replaced by Hall for the next game.

Hall went on to score two cracking tries against Huddersfield. The revisionists proclaimed him wonderful and Smith barely warranted a mention. However, the more sagely amongst us, ie me, noted Hall's around game and in particular defence was poor. Mclennan though so and Smith got back in.

The season continued in similar vein until Smith made Mclennan's decision easy by being a "very naught boy".

Smith's form last season was patchy. He certainly hit his straps in the Wigan eliminator and Grand Final and started this season the same. However, let's not re-write what he was doing overall last year.

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I think McClennan could see after the first two games who was the better right wing on the field at that time.

Smith
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It would be interesting to see that thread again after the Huddersfield match where Hall scored off a breakaway and an intercept (as I also contributed) just to see who was the more correct in their assessment.

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Quote: G1 "Akshwally cast yer mind back. Smith scored 2 tries against KR in the 1st game last year. His all around game was poor though. Mclennan commented on this.

The revisionists who now proclaim Smith as the Messiah weren't up in arms when he was replaced by Hall for the next game.

Hall went on to score two cracking tries against Huddersfield. The revisionists proclaimed him wonderful and Smith barely warranted a mention. However, the more sagely amongst us, ie me, noted Hall's around game and in particular defence was poor. Mclennan though so and Smith got back in.

The season continued in similar vein until Smith made Mclennan's decision easy by being a "very naught boy".

Smith's form last season was patchy. He certainly hit his straps in the Wigan eliminator and Grand Final and started this season the same. However, let's not re-write what he was doing overall last year.'"


Is this fact or just rumour G? I know a lot was said about him but no one event was really brought into the spotlight- apart form the stuff with his old man obviously.

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