It is time for BM to go, but who comes in? Look at Hudds with Rick Stone!

I meant every week for a long time now . Maybe he had game plans before that came up trumps , but he is light years behind now .

Are you seriously suggesting Leeds could not attract a better name than Huddersfield ?

Australia is the place to look. Ivan Cleary would be a stand out candidate if he would come to this country. Even Justin Morgan who did a decent job over here with Hull KR and will have learned plenty since working alongside the likes of Craig Bellamy & Stephen Kearney. Or a certain David Furner might be open to a return, he's been part of the Cowboys set up for a while now. To suggest there are no possible options to McDermott is wrong, what it will take though is not taking the cheap and easy option.

Like i said on another thread make this job available there'll be plenty of interest & then it's up to GH to get it right.
Personally there's Dunneman Furner Cleary J.Morgan etc.

I didn't say that.

No unlike some I just respect and have some gratitude for people who have actually been a part of successes we've been able to enjoy.

In the circumstances dropping Briscoe didn't seem an overly bright idea?

A lot on here are suggesting Lilley should be a starter so him and Sutcliffe in the starting 17 should be OK.

In the forwards most would pick Keinhorst at least in the 17 so in reality Leeds were missing 4 players as were Cas.

The quality of the squad is in part due to the inability to bring quality youngsters through the system and for that McDermott has to take some responsibility.

I agree with Gotcha this club has lost its way - I have said before it needs fresh management at the top. Hetherington has done a great job but everyone has a shelf life and he has reached his "best before date"

What are you saying?

I'd like Cleary, a lot of the good groundwork that allowed the Penrith team to be as good as they were last year was done by him.

Agree seems like a guy with a lot of integrity too

I will say it again, if it wasn't for Segeyaro last year we finish dead last and struggle middle 8's. We are just going back down the same road again here.The dressing room needs a new voice and badly we cant just let it drift and fester and take beating after beating again because a Segeyaro is unlikely to bail us out this time if we fall into the middle 8s.

Morley promoted from academy coach it is then...knowing GH

Remember those days when we recruited real quality players. Today we just sign dross.

Leeds are a huge club and would have no trouble attracting a decent coach. If we can get Toovey then you can manage too.

The danger of sitting by and not doing anything allows this kind of display to become acceptable. You then lose the winning culture and become a side in decline. That's difficult to stop by just tinkering around the edges.