I still think winning at Warrington on Saturday will be no forgone conclusion - they are a good side and Leeds have to play at the same level they did against Wigan, something they have done since the 2012 play offs.

Write Huddersfield off at your peril - Anderson is no Brown and they will be a different proposition this time round. Brown is Saints biggest barrier to success in the play offs IMO.

Warringtons flare is their greatest attribute but at the same time their biggest weakness. I'm not looking any further than Saturday afternoon. Could be a classic.

Saints are the big unknown this year IMO. Like you say, they could cause some havoc; equally Hull KR, who've beaten them 3 times this year, could cause them problems.

Exactly

Could also be a blowout and either way won't matter a great deal under this current flawed format.

Personally, as I said on the other page, I think the fact it is afternoon will probably mean a drab affair, rather than classic.

Agreed on the choice of kick-off time..... nuts. I guess SKY figured you can't put a game that actually matters into that slot.

If Wigan overcome Huddersfield tonight then aren't Warrington and Leeds also knowingly playing for (or to avoid) the poisoned chalice that is Club-Call?

Would be interesting. If Wigan turn it on and thrash Huddersfield, looking awesome, and Warrington slaughter us, with us picking up injuries or bans to say Sinny and a couple of others like JP, would TS still simply select based on final league ranking?

Sooner this rediculous playoff format is binned the better.

I concur Mr Daniel sir.

I've had a sneaky feeling for saints for the last month or so. They may have been abit scattered this season but they still have plenty of quality within their team, and their route to old trafford is very do-able. Hull kr at home, then most likely wigan and huddersfield away in either order. Huddersfield don't have the experience, and wigan's recent form is very poor.

Leeds situation is tricky IMO. I'm not sure i can see leeds beating warrington twice in 3 weeks. We've done well against warrington this season but they'll almost certainly step it up a few gears. We most likely will play them twice and if we win the first one we'll get a home game to get to old trafford, which would make us favourites. The last time we had that situation wigan turned us over.

If we lose the first game it will certainly take us down a peg after the last week of ''leeds gearing up for the playoffs as usual'' but then we'll get a home game against catalan or hull and if we win we'd go back to warrington and i'd fancy us in that situation.

I still fear wigan. I've got a bad feeling they'll limp through to the final. Beat huddersfield tonight, then they have a home game to the final. They'd be a tough nut to crack in the final if we played them.

Yeah. But you never know how the club will work out. If say, someone like catalans would make it through, no disrespect, but you'd happily pick them. Just like we did in 2009.

They've ground out more victories this year. They look dangerous, despite being ''scratchy'' they're second and only 2 silly defeats to widnes prevented them from top spot.

They are ready to step it up and have the benefit of last years experience.

Hudds can't face Saints can they if they lose? Hudds (IF they lose) would be the highest ranked of the 2 losers from week 1 and would therefore face the lowest ranked winner from the 5-8 games.

See 2010
1st placed Wigan lost and had to play 7th HKR
3rd place Wire lost and had to play 5th Hudds.

So IF Hudds lose tonight then the match between Wire & Leeds will see the loser most likely face Saints (providing they beat HKR)