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| Quote: MHL "if that was the case then these kids would be at hunslet and not Watson & Keinhorst'"
Good point
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| Quote: MHL "having watched them a few times this year calling them rubbish is very harsh, they easier outplayed batley for 40 minutes the other week and would have been 24 points clear and likely seen out the game if they were a bit more composed and didn't have some dodgy calls go against them including the appalling chisholm no try when he was no where near touch'"
I have a Rhinos/Hunslet season ticket this year (am I the only one). Hunslet are on a fine line between being a good side and where they are now - low down in the table. Unfortunately until they get a decent 6 and 7 and bin no.13 they won't progress.
They should be playing Sutcliffe in there now if they think he is the next big thing.
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| Your next stand out from the juniors could be Baldwinson......outstanding player.
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| Quote: MHL "if that was the case then these kids would be at hunslet and not Watson & Keinhorst'"
Not they wouldn't at all. Hunslet is for the also rans who have not done enough to prove themselves, but given another chance playing outside the clubs, or to gain match fitnes. It is not, and should never be, the next stage of development, when players are knocking on the first team door.
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| Quote: Gotcha "Not they wouldn't at all. Hunslet is for the also rans who have not done enough to prove themselves, but given another chance playing outside the clubs, or to gain match fitnes. It is not, and should never be, the next stage of development, when players are knocking on the first team door.'"
What a load of rubbish - you must of put this on to get a reaction rather than you actually believing what you have just written.
When you leave the U19s nowadays 3 things can happen:
1, you get binned off because there is no room for you, or you are not good enough.
2, You go straight into the first team squad i.e first 17 (Stevie Ward) but this is in very exceptional cases.
3, You are identified as being good enough and have the potential to be a SL player but need further development as it is a massive step up.
In the case of point 3 - If you are lucky enough and good enough then you will go on Dual reg as there is no where else to play. But do you think Hunslet will play you just because you are from Rhinos? Absolutely not! In fact (and don't take this the wrong way and start firing bullets), Clarkson and Mcshane were knocked back as Eaton one week didn't want or need them (before you all start, I know they are good enough - that's not the point I am trying to make). You have to fight for the place and fit in the team. You have to push out some well established players. In the case of Watson, Hunslet have 4 Full Backs and he had to wait for his chance. Hood - Hunslet have 4 Hookers, he sometimes has to come off the bench.
How I see it, is that if you go Dual reg and keep your place, then you have made a massive leap forward in your development. On the back of that - you are about 20/21 years old and there's either no room for you at Rhinos or you didn't make the cut. The U19s' next step should be wanting to go dual reg because if you don't then you will be pointed to point number 1 above.
I doubt very much Sutcliffe will be a point 2 above - he may get an odd game but the rest of his time may be at Hunslet if he is very lucky.
There are exceptions like Achurch and Moore but I cant cover it all.
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| Quote: W55ARE "What a load of rubbish - you must of put this on to get a reaction rather than you actually believing what you have just written.
When you leave the U19s nowadays 3 things can happen
You have just repeated almost what I said, in different wording. Point 3 is what Hunselt is for with regards the Rhinos.
The different wording you have used is that it is not just for development, it is to prove themselves going further.
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| Quote: Gotcha "Hunslet is for the also rans who have not done enough to prove themselves, but given another chance playing outside the clubs, or to gain match fitnes. It is not, and should never be, the next stage of development, when players are knocking on the first team door.'"
This is what you said. I read it as if you dont go into the first 17 after leaving the U19s your .
Nobody will go in to the first 17 regularly after leaving the U19s in the foreseeable future.
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| Quote: W55ARE "This is what you said. I read it as if you dont go into the first 17 after leaving the U19s your poop.
Nobody will go in to the first 17 regularly after leaving the U19s in the foreseeable future.'"
No I didn't. I said just because you were going to Hunslet, doesn't mean you are better than the one's left in the under 19's. I further explained that going to Hunslet was because they had not proved themselves and could not stay at the club, as not good enough for first team and no other outlet, i.e. it was second chance to prove themselves.
Hunslet is not part of a players development. Just because someone is in the under 19's does not mean they are behind the Hunslet boys.
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| Quote: Gotcha "Hunslet is not part of a players development. Just because someone is in the under 19's does not mean they are behind the Hunslet boys.'"
I will agree to disagree
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| Ok I will say one last thing to prove my worth - In the Summer 9s this year, if there is one. The Hunslet Dual reg players will play for Rhinos and the rest will be made up of the U19s.
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| Quote: W55ARE "Ok I will say one last thing to prove my worth - In the Summer 9s this year, if there is one. The Hunslet Dual reg players will play for Rhinos and the rest will be made up of the U19s.'"
And the difference to previous years of that is....?.......
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| Quote: W55ARE "Unfortunately until they get a decent 6 and 7 and bin no.13 they won't progress.'"
Play without a loose-forward? Its a bold strategy Cotton...
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| Quote: Gotcha "Not they wouldn't at all. Hunslet is for the also rans who have not done enough to prove themselves, but given another chance playing outside the clubs, or to gain match fitnes. It is not, and should never be, the next stage of development, when players are knocking on the first team door.'"
The next stage of development is EXACTLY what the Dual-Registation partnership should be.
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| Quote: Wheels "The next stage of development is EXACTLY what the Dual-Registation partnership should be.'"
Not it shouldn't, and as no one is using it for that effect, it isn't.
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| Quote: Gotcha "Not it shouldn't, and as no one is using it for that effect, it isn't.'"
Yes it should. Hull and York are, so it is.
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