I was fully optimistic that we would get the 2 points on friday night against the poorest Bulls side i have ever seen during the SL era.

The Bulls however came with a very simple game plan of trying to complete their sets followed by a good kick option, the fact that all their points came from not breaking our defensive line tells the story of how dire a game it was

We however clearly had no such game plan or structure, we did have some very industrious efforts by JJB, Buderus, JP and by my m.o.m Ablett though

We started this season with a basketball side that simply offloaded the ball at every opportunity did we not?
We now have no attacking options at all?
Is this a coaching problem or a players one?

We are really struggling to make the hard yards up the middle and we are also woeful at controlling the collision, due to this we can't get the field position required to release our pacy centres....oh wait a minute

I cant wait for Watkins return to fitness, this is his undoubted chance to play left centre whilst Senior is still out injured and a chance for him to make this position his own

Well that is one problem position solved

I agree. Several more players will leave and we need 2/3 quality players brought in to play alongside our good youngsters who are coming through. I'm not sure who is still available in the NRL. GH went to Australia in November last year and met managers/agents so I'm hoping he's got something up his sleeve!

Spot on, people at work today were moaning about ganson but we can't blame anyone

Who would be front runners if BM was sacked tomorrow and who's available right now?

I have to go to work tomorrow and endure the onslaught of abuse I'm bound to receive from our resident Bulls fans.

Can't wait.

first of all say to them,before you start ,did you go?

Unfortunately mate I know for a fact that the main offender would definitely have been there.

If, on the very off chance, that he wasn’t should I try and pretend that we won and all accounts of a Bulls victory are some kind of conspiracy?

no no, just bare it

When I log onto Southstander it's often with the excited anticipation that posters will surprise me by displays of much lower levels of ignorance.

Mal Reilly was a legendary player and a great coach with GB, Cas and Newcastle. However, does anyone advocating him remember 1988-89? Hello?

Ellery Hanley? Purlease. Look at his departure at Saints, look at his consultancy role at Cas. Legenary player but no coach.

Heck, Peter Fox did well with Northern and Yorkshire, why not mention him?

It was horrendous. Bulls were the worst team I have seen this year, and we still got beat by them.

Personally, I am still firmly of the opinion that a change of coach would make very little difference, we would still be 5th, still losing games expected to win, and still be way behind the new top 4. The only way of ensuring that situation changes is a big overhaul on the playing front. Probably will still show that McDermot may not still be up to it, but at least we would have a better foundation in place than now for any new guy.

If anybody really believes that McDermott told Sinfield in that second half not to get the ball wide and to just do suicidal flat short passes back inside, then they are seriously in a daze.

The next two games are Wigan and Catalans away. Very hard to see Leeds getting any points from either games, and two batterings a possibility.

If Cas and Hull beat Bradford and Salford respectively, we'll be in EIGHTH. Fifth has gone.

In that likely scenario, I'd be hopeful of a coaching change before the two Hull games.

I couldn't imagine any other outcome tbh.

But mind you, I couldn't imagine any coach with an ounce of credibility sticking, who was on the night, our best player out on the wing for the final period of the game - so who the hell knows anymore.

Yet if we had won on Friday we would be on the same points as Saints. What a missed opportunity.

Hello Gareth...

No, I don't remember 1988-89

Not that it would ever happen, but I'd still rather have Reilly in charge than Noble.

Surely any problems behind the scenes would be made worse by the number of key players reportedly not having a great relationship with him?

Don't think there's any chance of a change before those games, let's face it we are not expected to pick up anything from those games anyway. Two losses against Hull though (the second game now being a season definer) would surely force GH's hand??