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| Quote: Matt23 "
However you seem to be suggesting that the trouble was completely down to the lack of Doncaster security and possible aggro from some people associated with Doncaster. I've spoken to a few people at the game who have told me the Queens lot were being highly intimidating to all around them throughout the whole game, throwing things at the touch judge. Surely they had enough of a part in the brawl to get kicked out of the competition, and Doncaster may follow.'"
Ultimately its their responsibility, I'm not really interested in who called who or did what to who, ultimately Doncaster are responsible for the paying members of the public who attend the game, like for instance the grandparents of one of the players who I know who were caught right in the middle of the affray.
They know that and they have a lot of embarrassing questions to answer, the comment of their chief exec that I have read that stated that he was happy with their handling of the situation shows that he is way out of touch with what is expected of even a semi-pro club. |
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| Quote: Andy Gilder "To what extent do you charge an amateur team with being responsible for the conduct of their fans at an away fixture in a professionally run stadium? We've all seen fights which could have developed into more than minor scuffles were it not for a police/security presence at SL grounds, yet no-one screams for clubs kicking out of SL as a result.
I'd say Donny are in more danger for failing to provide adequate policing or stewarding as the "home" team.'" So was it the McCalpine stadium's management teams fault that the Hull fans got on the pitch in 2000? Surely if they'd provided adequate policing in the first place the whole thing would never have happened. No doubt Donny could be in trouble (especially if it's true that it was fans that phoned the Police, and not a member of staff at the stadium), but I don't think that they (the club) were the cause of the trouble, and that's what should be punished IMO. |
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| Quote: Matt23 "So was it the McCalpine stadium's management teams fault that the Hull fans got on the pitch in 2000? Surely if they'd provided adequate policing in the first place the whole thing would never have happened. No doubt Donny could be in trouble (especially if it's true that it was fans that phoned the Police, and not a member of staff at the stadium), but I don't think that they (the club) were the cause of the trouble, and that's what should be punished IMO.'"
Was it Hull FC as a club's fault that individuals claiming to be their fans got on the pitch?
Is it Queens ARLFC's fault that some individuals associated with them were involved in an altercation that was definitely not one sided?
What could either club have realistically done which they didn't to prevent it happening in the first place? |
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| Quote: Andy Gilder "I'd say Donny are in more danger for failing to provide adequate policing or stewarding as the "home" team.'"
Maybe, although this would set a dangerous precedent if it meant that away fans could ensure their team's progress by orchestrating a ruck. |
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| Quote: Clearwing "Maybe, although this would set a dangerous precedent if it meant that away fans could ensure their team's progress by orchestrating a ruck.'"
But in this case thats not applicable as the scores were very close IIRC  |
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| Quote: DoubleAone "But in this case thats not applicable as the scores were very close IIRC ![]()
True - although I wasn't implying that either set of fans kicked off for this reason at this particular game. The point I intended making was that the RFL are highly unlikely to boot out Donny for failing to police their ground properly.
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| Quote: Clearwing "True - although I wasn't implying that either set of fans kicked off for this reason at this particular game. The point I intended making was that the RFL are highly unlikely to boot out Donny for failing to police their ground properly.'"
Even though its part of their license ?
(I agree though, its highly unlikely for the RFL to do anything too costly against one of its members) |
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| rlhttp://www.sportinglife.com/rugbyleague/news/story_get.cgi?STORY_NAME
Not surprising really as its in accordance with the rules of abandoned games - by three minutes.
Its also a neat way to close the matter quickly without punishing the playing teams, but this comment suggests that there are still some organisational matters to address...
Quote: "The RFL board have referred the matter to the League's compliance department for them to conduct a full investigation into the incident, which is rare in rugby league.'"
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| Quote: McLaren_Field "rlhttp://www.sportinglife.com/rugbyleague/news/story_get.cgi?STORY_NAME
The RFL board have referred the matter to the League's compliance department for them to conduct a full investigation into the incident, which is rare in rugby league....'"
What's rare? The violence, or a the idea of a "full" investigation into something wrong with Rugby League? |
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Doncaster allowed through to ensure a better gate in next round
Hull play illegal player, Queens fans accused of fighting - nothing to do with the players.
The RFL are driven by money, nothing else
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| Quote: loinertillidie "What's rare? The violence, or a the idea of a "full" investigation into something wrong with Rugby League?'"
Don't know, I didn't write it  |
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| Quote: antoine "Doncaster allowed through to ensure a better gate in next round
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Thats right, Doncaster vs Gateshead could break the 600 mark. |
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| Quote: McLaren_Field "Thats right, Doncaster vs Gateshead could break the 600 mark.'"
And whats the odds on leeds playing away in Tyneside in the next round? |
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