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Quote: TOMCAT "So you and "they" are not fans of Voltaire (or more accurately Evelyn Beatrice Hall) then Smokey?

This conversation between the unwavering, has surely run its course. If it continues for another 40 pages, which it probably will, it will not illuminate or resolve any issues nor will it achieve more than being an embarrassment to this forum.'"

There is a pretty substantial difference between having the right to say something, and having the right to say things unchallenged.

I haven't called for any type of censorship or banning or anything of that ilk.

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Quote: SmokeyTA "There is a pretty substantial difference between having the right to say something, and having the right to say things unchallenged.

I haven't called for any type of censorship or banning or anything of that ilk.'"


In which case, seeing as no new points have been made by either side of this "debate" in the last 30 pages, You have made your position clear as have Printer et al. So job done, no need for continuation? Please don't give me the bs about fearlessly refuting "homophobia", your rebuttals merely elicit a further defence of his position and visa versa.Too much heat not enough light generated. So avoid doing the same things and expecting different results icon_wink.gif Walk away, you have eloquently made your points, democracy and the rule of law are saved, you can stop now.

PS Printer et al the above applies to you too

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Quote: ThePrinter "So they're comfortable with my opinion, they're just uncomfortable that they've heard it.....yeah another good one Smokey. '"
No you giant wazzock they are comfortable that it is your opinion. I.e nobody is stating it isn't your opinion. That doesn't mean they are comfortable with your opinion being ok.

Quote: ThePrinter "No it's specific to him. You just want to have some morale highground self righteous rant defending every gay person on the planet.'"
No it isn't. You aren't stating James Child is getting special treatment because of he is James Child you are claiming he gets special treatment because of his sexuality.

Quote: ThePrinter "Simple, by trying to focus solely on James Child until you start accusing of attacking every gay person breathing.'"
focusing on James Child's sexuality. You're not smart enough to try these verbal gymnastics.

Quote: ThePrinter "It isn't a opinion that positive discrimination happens, it does happen. Even those who don't think it's happened in this particular case of James Child would be bloody daft to say positive discrimination only exist in my opinion.....but you have.

Because we don't live in some world full of sunshine and rainbows. It'd be great if being from a miniority status didn't influence your position at work.....but it does, often negatively, sometimes 'positively'. Just because you don't want it to doesn't mean it doesn't happen and we shouldn't consider it. People attitudes to the differences between us might be changing, but people noticing the differences between us hasn't change.'"
it is only in your opinion that it happens in he way you describe and the way you have alledged it has happened. If it isn't only in your opinion perhaps you can provide us some proof? Oh no you have already told us you have none.

No amount of fog knitting nor pathetic attempts at verbal gymnastics will alter the fact that you have alledged James Child has received preferential treatment based on his sexuality based on nothing but your preconceptions of positive discrimination. The word the English language uses to describe such an allegation is prejudiced.

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Quote: TOMCAT "In which case, seeing as no new points have been made by either side of this "debate" in the last 30 pages, You have made your position clear as have Printer et al. So job done, no need for continuation? Please don't give me the bs about fearlessly refuting "homophobia", your rebuttals merely elicit a further defence of his position and visa versa.Too much heat not enough light generated. So avoid doing the same things and expecting different results
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Quote: SmokeyTA "and his responses are only confirming the idiocy of such a defence. Bringing to light these nonsense defences of such positions is the best way to destroy them. Sunlight is the best bleach.'"


And how's the battle going? 37 pages in, victory must be just around the corner?

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You're not the Messiah you're a very naughty boy. eusa_naughty.gif

But to avoid falling into the same trap as you I will offer no further contribution to this thread icon_wave.gif

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He's like an irritable little child in the school yard is young Smokey. Having his little tantrum in the yard, others ask why, he responds Coz, they ask again, he says coz. Never get an answer just his way coz he says so.

People ask him to leave, he still wants the last word. You don't usually see child Bigots, but one for all here.

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Quote: Gotcha "He's like an irritable little child in the school yard is young Smokey. Having his little tantrum in the yard, others ask why, he responds Caus, they ask again, he says caus. Never get an answer just his way caus he says so.

People ask him to leave, he still wants the last word. You don't usually see child Bigots, but one for all here.'"

You think if you try hard enough people. Will forget what you said? That to protect your special friend you made some pretty ridiculous evidence less accusations based on Child's Sexuality.

They won't forget Gotcha.

icon_lol.gif bigotry, you wouldn't recognise it if it hit you in the face with Phil Daly

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Quote: TOMCAT "And how's the battle going? 37 pages in, victory must be just around the corner?

Victory happened decades ago my friend.

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So was it agreed that Child is a e ref????

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Quote: SmokeyTA "You think if you try hard enough people. Will forget what you said? That to protect your special friend you made some pretty ridiculous evidence less accusations based on Child's Sexuality.

They won't forget Gotcha.



My special Friend? I am sure Printer will be pleased with that. I think you will find he needs no protection, he has done a good enough job himself showing you up for what you are.

I see you still haven't explained the fact of the RFL proudly declaring exactly what has been said on here, which you refer to above. Of course, the obvious could smack you in the face and you still wouldn't realise, as you would still be copying and pasting your next line from your textbook icon_lol.gif

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Quote: Gotcha "My special Friend? I am sure Printer will be pleased with that. I think you will find he needs no protection, he has done a good enough job himself showing you up for what you are.

I see you still haven't explained the fact of the RFL proudly declaring exactly what has been said on here, which you refer to above. Of course, the obvious could smack you in the face and you still wouldn't realise, as you would still be copying and pasting your next line from your textbook I was referring to Mr hardaker who I'm sure is delighted to have your backing.

You have yet to provide the evidence that the rfl do proudly declare these things. Despite numerous people asking you. If it was Phil Daly who told you on have a good idea where you have gone wrong.

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Quote: D4mo78 "So was it agreed that Child is a poop ref????'"


That's never been in doubt. What wasn't agreed is why he gets away with it, as only three people have offered a suggestion, anybody else just wants to believe that can't be the case rather than offer another option. At least they have had the decency though to declare that as their opinion, rather than shout incoherent wild accusations like one individual.

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Quote: SmokeyTA "I was referring to Mr hardaker who I'm sure is delighted to have your backing.

You have yet to provide the evidence that the rfl do proudly declare these things. Despite numerous people asking you. If it was Phil Daly who told you on have a good idea where you have gone wrong.'"


You could alternatively just go on the RFL website. But of course that mean you accepting your foolishness.

How does any of this have anything to do with Hardaker icon_lol.gif Is Printer or SuperTed an alias for Hardaker? icon_lol.gif

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Quote: Gotcha "Is that what is said? or is it said that he would be handled differently due to his consistently bad performances?'"


No, what's being quite clearly implied by at least one person on this thread is that he gets big games purely to suit the RFL's inclusivity agenda, but not ones that are so big they will be too obvious to the fans.

Would you agree with that sentiment, or not?

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Quote: Gotcha "You could alternatively just go on the RFL website. But of course that mean you accepting your foolishness.

How does any of this have anything to do with Hardaker You were attacking Child to protect your special friend hardaker you silly Billy.

Why don't you provide us with a link? Seems a pretty easy thing for you to do?

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