Well make your mind up who deserved it ? Haha

He is the worst of a bad bunch, every time he refs there is always a multi page thread regarding his 'performance' somewhere. Not seen your match today and I'm glad really, I never enjoy watching James child reffed games as he ruins rugby league as a spectacle.

Such as...? And how many of them led to a try?


Hang on, if you got a win you didn't deserve as a result of the referee's performance, how would that have made him "better"?! Seems a strange comment to make.

We all know what to expect from a James Child game, like most have said Hull deserved the win and its a shame that people are talking about the ref afterwards. He did makes several poor decisions but the only one that really still has me stratching my head afterwards is the Lee Smith incorrect PTB, never in a million years was that a penatly against Leeds. As for the forward passes, you win some you lose some, and with BJB's try i really think when the ball is passed long out to the winger it should be the touch judge that makes that call.

Thought we deserved it tonight but think also that some of you Rhinos are being a bit hard on your lads. You came at us hard down the middle for what seemed an eternity in the 2nd half, and if you had got over the line the momentum may have changed. It was so important our defence stood up and we did, down the middle especially. It was a tight game till our two late tries gave us daylight. As ever with Childs penalties become a bit like a lottery as to who gets them, never seen so many players look in amazement at his calls. Anyway tonight it was our turn at last and its great to have one against you. See you at Headingley, we may need the rest of our wounded back to get anything there me thinks.

The only real credit Leeds, as a team, deserve is only losing by 14. I find myself thinking what if the Smith try had been given ... but even when we had our tails up on after scoring tries there was still no fluidity to the attack; Sinfield seemed, to misuse a term, to be the RL equivalent of sacked repeatedly - I never want to see him die with the ball but Hull appeared to get to him several times. Despite this still he came up with some delicious passes.

All in all another one to file away with the small but slowly growing collection of away from home horror shows over the past two years. I'm not sure it means anything in the long run for Leeds but it may be a sign of a sea change for Hull.

Totally agree. I wasn't mad at Child for missing that. Having reffed the game plenty of times in the past, they're difficult to see at that speed. But the TJ should have been all over that.

I think the Lee Smith penalty was a bit harsh, but you have to find your feet before putting the ball down. It's one of those technical things that gets ignored every week and for some reason Child decided to use it there. I think it was the right decision "technically", but you could have probably pulled up at least 10 more of them in that game so why he decided to then I don't know.

There was nothing wrong with the Webb pass to Jones-Bishop for his try. The referee and/or touch-judge got that call correct, IMO.

Even the angle that made it look slightly dubious still shows Webb inline with the ball as Jones-Bishop receives it even after his momentum was slowed by Crooks' challenge.

Yup - I agree with that. The forward pass calls he may have got wrong were in fact the ones he called - the crazy Lee Smith one and then the one from Hull down BJB's side in the second half which was a great example of the inherent momentum in a passed ball - I need to see it again but it seemed to travel well forwards in relation to the ground but, in fact, was arguably passed backwards legitimately.

Even my step-son (15) has learned that when Childs is the ref he will watch a game more reminiscent of the RU games he is more accustomed to....lots of stop start ref dominated whistle blowing games. Ugghh

Hopeless. It's a toss up between him and Alibert for the worst seen in SL

There were several times in the first couple of tackles when Hull passes went noticeably forward. Yes it was inside Hull's half, and no, none of them led directly to tries, but they were blatant forward passes and they should have been spotted.



I didn't say that though did I? I said that with a better referee we might have got a win that our performance didn't deserve. Simple fact is that thanks to inept refereeing Leeds were denied a legitimate try at a key point in the game and likewise Hull were gifted two points and possession(the Lee Smith penalty - I can't agree about it being technically correct as the first infringement was the Hull player's interference). Better refereeing in those two instances would have seen Leeds six points better off, Hull two points worse off and Leeds at Hull's thirty with six tackles in hand. It doesn't take Mystic Meg to figure out that that's a game changer.

Like I say, doesn't change the fact that Hull fully deserved their win, they did. Hull were better than Leeds in every department - but you don't always get what you deserve in sport and my point was that if Childs hadn't made critical errors at a crucial time in the game we may well have won - and the act of winning doesn't always mean you deserved to win.

Carnt believe you are having a go at Childs when you should be having a go at your player that did the eye ripping he should be baned for 6 weeks,no place for that in our sport.

As a "neutral" watching matches on sky it is getting a bit pathetic how every week games seem to be getting ruined by incompetent and inconsistent refereeing. It always seems that if the margin between penalty's given becomes wide that Ref's seem to have to "even it up". Ref's are not there to even up the penalty count, If a team has bad discipline the count should reflect that.

A big difference I've noticed lately between here and AUS is that when a bad call is made over there (yes the aussies do make mistakes too), it may get a split second mention by the commentators but the player's just get on with it and you don't hear about it again. However over here Eddie and Stevo tend to go over every single bad call and spend to much time contemplating on the "what if's" which whilst they have a point, I think they do nothing to help the Ref's cause and just take away from the other teams efforts.

Like most poster's on this thread however I feel the best team tonight won, and whilst the forward pass call was a shocking one there where bad calls both ways so it's not really worth singling out particular decisions because we'd be here forever discussing what would have happened if such a thing was or wasn't given.

There are big problems with officiating at the moment and unfortunately it is starting to spoil the final product, far to much inconsistency and ref's who are just seemingly not competent or consistent enough considering they are professionals. Stuart Cummings has got his work cut out.

Plenty saying "we all know what to expect when Child is ref". If we all know what to expect, then how is he still a ref?

(Ps. Hull deserved their win)

That is absolutely true, and something I've noticed. The Chuckle Brothers do us no favours in looking for the next manufactured controversy to talk about rather than concentrating on the players.

However the Aussie commentators don't have to deal with Child and Hicks. If they did I imagine they'd be torn apart, if not in the commentary box then in the much more brutal Aussie RL press.