I'd say that it looks to me that he will be going to Catalan. That would confirm to me why we have been looking at Danny houghton and have gone back in the past few weeks and increased our offer. I'll be disappointed if we lose him as he has been a quality addition this season.

Apparently Lunt has agreed a deal with HullKR already.

For those wetting their pants about Widdop earlier in the thread, today was another fairly anonymous Widdop performance.... The least effective ball player on the pitch - though showed some good defence.

Yet to see him perform well consistently or against the better teams.

I think Widdop would do well in SL, but I've never been that impressed with him on a regular basis, especially for England. He's certainly, not as good as any version of Danny McGuire IMO.

Anybody that says Widdop wouldn't improve us next year is off their head. Sutcliffe is never a half back.

Sutcliffe will make a quality 13 for me

Sutcliffe, may have made a quality 13 10 years ago, but the game has moved on, he's a big 6, but does he have the frame to move into the pack every week? I doubt it, and with Cam Smith a couple of years away at the most I think we'll have better options at 13, so helping Sutcliffe develop into a quality stand off is probably the way to go IMO.

yes possibly so but I still think he would be good in there

I'm not saying Widdop wouldn't improve us - clearly he would be a decent signing; I'm just saying he ain't the superstar some people make out - infact far from it.

He's good when things are going well for the team, but he's not the sort of player to grab a game by the scruff of the neck and drag his team into the contest. Unfortunately, like many recent English playmakers, he's got a bit of the 'Leons' when the tough games come along.

Heard that only Baldwinson & Minchella will be returning from the loanees.

Briscoe, Duckworth, Tonks, Foster, Clarkson all going elsewhere, with Clarkson going to Hull KR.

From what I saw of the game it was pretty much one way traffic from the Storm. Judging half backs behind a beaten pack against arguably the most agressive pack in the comp says little about Widdop or Benji's ability/form. What I saw of the Saints attack was Benji running 30 meters sideways quite a bit, also running backwards at times.

If your not a Widdop fan this one would be an ideal game to highlight when cherry picking for an argument.

That's what I expected.

Of the ones departing the only one I was tempted to see more of was Briscoe Jr. as he showed some decent versatility value but we look better balanced heading into 2016 than we did when he was last here getting the odd game.

Don't think minchella is anyware near super league standard, and from what I've head he is more interested in his shagging career than his RL Career

Haha that tickled me

Not cherry picking - just a perfect example to back up my opinion that I posted a few days ago. Truth is, he has a fair few games like that - there's not many examples of when he has dominated a 'big' or tough game. Infact, I can't think of any - can you?

You make an interesting point. Prior to the Dogs v Sharks game on channel 9, they had a best 5 halfbacks in the comp section. The wash up from Gould, Johns and Fitler was that the halves who are regarded as playing the best play for the top five teams who happen to play behind the biggest and best packs. It was highlighted it's no suprise DCE is having an average season as the Manly pack are average. They basically said put any halves pair behind the top packs and you see different players.