Neither looked that good especially in defence.
Saying that Saints Wigan was nothing to write home about in attack and defence in that game ruled the way.
Maybe we are not that bad after all.

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We’re not that bad at all. Just clear we can’t sustain that intensity for long against a top team. We are def top 6 side, looking up. Think few of us just wanted bit more, but have to readjust expectations….

I agree Shabs.
With our squad I thought we were still behind Wigan, Saints and Catalans and pushing HKR and Warrington for 4th.
6th for me is not good enough.

Cracking game tonight with forwards who were prepared to run straight and hard with skill in the halves.
Thought Catalans just about deserved the win.

Again, a game played with the intensity you want to see, but I'm not sure the skill levels were where they should be for 2 of the top 3. There were so many errors in that 2nd half.

I'm glad Catalans won though, they deserved it.

Was that Makinson try really a try? It didn't look like he got it down.

Ref had good view so yeah.

He also had a good view of their other try that he gave, only for the video ref to say it wasn`t grounded.
I`m not convinced Makinson`s was a try tbh.

Not really important, was given so a try.

On the contrary. Very important. Many hailed the video ref at every game as a silver bullet but what do we have? Inconsistency continues to reign, both within and across games. To refer or not refer? Then the guesswork kicks in. I have a try. Inconclusive video evidence leading to the refs guesswork being confirmed. An utter shambles of a system. Use it to its full extent or get rid and accept mistakes will be made. But when the technology is available and either not used or bound by some nonsensical prior guesswork, it's yet another facet that makes the game look amateurish.

So amateurish that football has gone down same road. I’d ditch it tomorrow and just let the refs, ref. But just look at the grief the ref already gets. It’s a no win situation with the modern fan……

The application of it, with the "I have a try" guesswork is amateurish. Haven't a clue how it works in football. As I say, either use it properly (which in reality means sparingly for glaring errors or where the ref is genuinely unsighted) or ditch it, yes.

The application of it, with the "I have a try" guesswork is amateurish. Haven't a clue how it works in football. As I say, either use it properly (which in reality means sparingly for glaring errors or where the ref is genuinely unsighted) or ditch it, yes.

For me, they need to do away with the guesswork of try / no try when the ref is basically sometimes just guessing.

Why cant we go down the route of conferring with the touchies / in goal refs then using the RU TMO version of - is there any reason I cannot give this try?

The problem here is that that leads to, or the perception of, the video ref looking for a reason not to award it. Unless it's only to look at glaring errors, but as we have seen, that soon turns into scrutinising the minutiae of the play.

There was nothing wrong with how the VR was used, but they insisted on following the NRL and bringing in the ref's call. It's ridiculous and should be binned.