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Quote: Andy Gilder "Thought Ward showed the benefits of a full off-season of gym work on Boxing Day. Seems to have put on plenty of bulk, without losing any mobility in the process.

Bigger tests await, but he's got everything in place to kick on.'"

I still think he has more talent than being just a crash ball merchant lets hope our Coach finally utilises this.

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Quote: rhinoms "I still think he has more talent than being just a crash ball merchant lets hope our Coach finally utilises this.'"


You can only play with so many pivots in your team though. Leeds currently have three, arguably four when Sutcliffe, McGuire, Burrow and Sinfield are on the field at the same time.

There's simply not scope to fit Ward into the team as anything other than a runner at this point in time. Unfortunate for him, but it's purely an accident of birth that he's come along at the time he has done.

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If it takes Sinfield to play hooker to get him back tackling down the middle, rather than on the fringes, I'd take that.

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Quote: thebloodbath "If it takes Sinfield to play hooker to get him back tackling down the middle, rather than on the fringes, I'd take that.'"

The problem is that I get the feeling that Sinfield was taken out of the middle because he couldn't do it for 80 mins. I would think it unlikely that he would move back there for more than the odd game

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I'm hoping that his first off season for a while will see Sinfield rejuvenated the way it did for Peacock.

For reasons that should be obvious to anyone, Sinfield needs to be in the team.However, pairing him with McGuire gives us a very ponderous half back pairing. I'd prefer to see Burrow at 7 but Sutcliffe also needs game time.

It's a conundrum but luckily we have the right coach to solve it.......

Oh, and I remain to be convinced that Ward should get his place in the 17 back, let alone be a first choice, even if his new meaty thighs have got a few posters juices flowing.

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I think our best bet in the halves is probably Sinfield at 7 and Sutcliffe at 6. Gives Sutty the opportunity to really make his mark at pivot (clearly his best position) while having Kev alongside him to direct. McGuire is excellent cover, and Burrow can come off the bench.

1. Hardaker
2. Briscoe
3. Watkins
4. Moon
5. Hall
6. Sutcliffe
7. Sinfield (C)
8. Cuthbertson
9. Aiton
10. Peacock
11. Achurch
12. Ablett
13. Delaney

14. Burrow
15. Leuluai
16. Singleton/Yates
17. Jones-Buchanan

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Agree with G1 regarding Ward. And agree with the poster above who's name I have somehow forgot in the time its taken me to click 'reply' regarding Sutcliffe.

That is all.

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While I know there's a significant difference in terms of intensity and opposition between the opposition in the last two games and what can be expected in the SL regular rounds, there has appeared to be more pace and urgency around the team with McGuire and Sutcliffe running things.

It's to be hoped that urgency doesn't disappear when the reins go back to the captain.

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Quote: Andy Gilder "While I know there's a significant difference in terms of intensity and opposition between the opposition in the last two games and what can be expected in the SL regular rounds, there has appeared to be more pace and urgency around the team with McGuire and Sutcliffe running things.

It's to be hoped that urgency doesn't disappear when the reins go back to the captain.'"



I would agree with that, but I also think that is also down to another couple of changes. The ability of having a big forward who can hit the line and move a pass on, very much like in the James Graham mould, and an actual attacking running backrower in Stevie Ward.

As you said, the opposition needs to be taken into account, but regardless of that these are two things which were missing previously against whatever opposition. This has given much more options to the half back pairing.

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now that we're half way through the season what do you all think is our best 17 and the side that would play in a cc final or gf if all were fit for selection?

have any of you changed your initial views to your pre season selections?

stevie ward must surely be the first name on the team sheet,he always wins the collision in attack and is making some mammoth defensive stints
paul aiton has also looked very good for us at 9 after his injuries/illness last season

my side would be
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4:moon
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6:sinfield
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13:delaney
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15:jjb
16:singleton
17:achurch/leuluai

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Hardaker
Briscoe
Watkins
Moon
Hall
Sinfield
McGuire
Cuthbertson
Aiton
Peacock
Ward
Ablett
Delaney

Sutcliffe
JJB
Singleton
Achurch

Would be interesting to see Sutcliffe at 6 with Sinfield at loose and see how things go in some league games, that would throw up an issue of who drops to the bench between Ablett or Delaney (as like you Ward is a certain starter ATM)

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Hardaker
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Watkins
Moon
Hall
Sutcliffe
Mcguire
JP
Aiton
Cuthbo
Ward
Delaney
Sinfield

Ablett
Singleton
Jjb
Achurch

Sinfield was very good yesterday but thus far this season Sutty has the 6 shirt on merit and i disagree with him getting dropped let's not forget when the pack has laid the platform Sutcliffe has done plenty of damage.

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Quote: rhinoms "Hardaker
Briscoe
Watkins
Moon
Hall
Sutcliffe
Mcguire
JP
Aiton
Cuthbo
Ward
Delaney
Sinfield

Ablett
Singleton
Jjb
Achurch

Sinfield was very good yesterday but thus far this season Sutty has the 6 shirt on merit and i disagree with him getting dropped let's not forget when the pack has laid the platform Sutcliffe has done plenty of damage.'"


True if we'd have gone with Sutcliffe at 6 yesterday and Sinfield 13 we'd have still been successful really going by how the game went. News from the McDermott post match press conference is that Delaney picked up a hamstring injury and he didn't sound confident about it. If JJB is missing still I don't see who else to put at 13 ATM other than Sinfield (Singleton did against Saints but is needed for a better prop rotation on the bench). So for the next few weeks we could see Sinfield at loose with Sutcliffe at 6.

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WRT to Stevie Ward, I'm convinced. An injury free off season has clearly benefited the lad. Superb start to the season and thoroughly merited place in the 13.

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If Delaney is going to miss some time, I'd be interested to see Achurch get some more game time either starting at loose or in the second row with Ablett at 13.

In terms of "best" side, if I had a game to win tomorrow and everyone was fit it would be:

Hardaker, Briscoe, Watkins, Moon, Hall, Sinfield, McGuire, Peacock, Aiton, Cuthbertson, Ward, Ablett, Delaney. Reps: Sutcliffe, Singleton, JJB, Achurch

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