I can see why Webb has been retained in tems of who we are releasing and how young and inexperienced our back line are.
The biggest shocker to me is that Kirke got 2yrs yet Bailey who has been by far our best prop all year has yet to be retained !!
Griffin i think will add something .Moore i'm underwelmed and would of hoped Ambler or Amor would of got a crack at a few games.

agree about Bailey being amongst our best if not best prop these last 4 games.....but all season?????? Come on mate that's stretching it a little far??

Agree I'd prefer him (on current form) to the retention of Kirke and probably Kylie as well.

If rumours of Griffin and Moore come true and Bailey is retained then I worry about the future of Amor and Ambler. Would they be prepared to go out on loan again and await injuries or retirement if JP and Kylue to get their chance in the 1st team?

It is tough to criticise Webb for Chase scoring, it would be very difficult to tackle a player of Chase's ability when on the back foot. I do think Webb's defence is a touch suspect and he has lost a hell of a lot of his running ability and speed. His constant forward passes and whining wind me up too, refs have obviously been told to watch his passes as he gets pinged every match for it and thus he should make an extra effort to make sure he doesn't pass it so flat. Webb is still safe as houses under the kicks though and adds some creativity to the back line with a touch of support play. BJB is still a little vulnerable under the kick but his speed and trying to collect the ball on the full makes him more of a threat. It is a tough one and I see the pro's and con's from both, hopefully BJB can get a few games at full back and I'm sure there will be injuries next year in which they can both have opportunities.

Kyle Amor may be staying at Wakefield if they have their way, and I would not blame him if he does.

I think that Webby has become very indecisive on defence and this is not the first time he has been exposed.
Remember when Whiting broke away in the QF ( when he had no-one in support ) and Webb just backed away and eventually fell on his backside ?

Although Danny McGuire saved Webb's blushes with a cover tackle, Hull scored off the next play.

Webb seems incapable of taking the initiative when facing an oncoming player and a clever footballer such as Chase will take full advantage.

He had chase, then he hesitated and chase did his dummy and step then accelerated. He should have just taken the man rather than waiting to see if he'd offload.

Chase if difficult to face in 1 on 1's but webb f*cked up for sure.

What Marcel just said, plus Chase then completely did him for pace at the wrong moment, and left him for dead. And it would be reassuring to think that whoever is playing FB has got the pace to stay with an attacking player, rather than being completely done by him. Webb's pace hasnt been the best since his back problem, and that's something that needs to be taken into consideration. It's the same problem we had with Keef, he was been found out for pace by younger, quicker fellas, and then we are in trouble.

Pace wasn't the problem in that situation.

Webb had him, he got himself in a position to make the tackle.

But he hesitated for a second to see if case would pass to the support runners. It was fatal, because chase then did a step as if he going to go on the inside then straight away accelerated on the outside, this wrong footed webb but he still caught chase, just the line was already too close and chase made it.

He f*cked up. A fullback should never hesitate to make the tackle, as that second is always fatal.

When it comes to a foot race Youngquest has won everytime this season thats why cas signed him, a winger with genuine pace.
Rangi made a mistake when throwing a dummy, Youngquest in the clear would not have been caught.

Webb backing off and tackling Chase over the line saved Leeds 2 points!

An interesting and valid observation.

Webb probably could have taken Chase out, but Clarkson's poor miss allowed the whole thing to unfold. Even if Webb had got Chase, we'd have been in defence on our own line. If Clarkson had made the tackle we'd have been defending 70M out.

Slightly OT, I know everyone's creaming about Charnley, but am I the only one who thought his attempt to beat Wellens after making a long break was, well, a bit naff? He had acres of space in which to commit Wellens, and yet only swerved a little way too close to him. Wellens is a sound defender, but has nowhere near the speed of Webb. IMO Charnley could and should have scored. Plenty of class wingers I've seen would have been in under the sticks from that position.

I did mention the moving of BJB to full back and did see the way he did not round McGoldrick, but I also saw him take a few high balls in our 20 and make incisive runs, beating numerous men on the way, getting us on the front foot early in a set. Webb has failed to do this regularly and I feel BJB has the pace to do this regularly.
As for the (none) tackle on Chase, I watched it again last night and still feel he had to implement a tackle. Yes Clarkson left the hole, but full back is an important defensive position, where one up tackles have to be made combined with good decision making. Webb did not, in my opinion, make the correct decision.
I'd rather have another chance defending my line than be under posts waiting for a kick to come.

Spot on, and we have to give credit to Rangi Chase for an excellent step, and scoring one of the best tries of the competition.

That's spot on. There is a bracket of time where the support runner is covered and Webb could easily make the tackle, but he held off. He won't commit to any tackles at all. A neck/back injury isn't an excuse, it's a reason and should be taken in to consideration at contract renewal stage.

For me the blame lies with Clarkson for the Chase try, it was a shocking attempt, I can't make my mind up abouth Clarkson, I think he's got potential but he doesn't really hit hard in defense or attack and he seems to have very average hands. Hopefully this will improve as he develops and fills out, but at the moment I'm not sure he should be starting LF for Leeds. Webb has been inconsistant at times this year but he has also been our most creative player at times too, he has an extra dimention to his play that BJB currently doesn't have playing FB.