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| Quote: Lawrie L "the quicker his bags hit St Micheals Lane the better after those comments
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What if he goes out the Cricket ground through the gates?
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| He's obviously trying for the TS style 'performance over result every time' but didn't quite convey it as well as he could have done. Not worth getting your knickers in a twist over.
The bigger problem is that he seems incapable of spotting a good performance in the first place, and the results aren't coming either.
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| Quote: joshua102 "At least its an insight to why he is a bad coach he probably says it every week and plays people even ones out of form so it does not upset them. Its a bit like my under 9s team when someone says its not about winning its the taking part, like fook. I would prefer the winning mentality as young as possible not that i am allowed to preach that like . Wonder if other countries practice this shi t too or is it just our pc mad one.'"
We're the extreme, with our focus on winning junior games rather than trying to develop players. PC has nothing to do with it.
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| Quote: Raheem Morris "What if he goes out the Cricket ground through the gates?'"
Then whoever did that needs to be signed for Yorkshire as quick as possible
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| Spot on Seth & Richie. I sincerely hope Joshua102 is not focussed on winning with his u9's team and should be far more focussed on making the sport enjoyable & accessible to all types of kids and on developing skills.
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| I'm actually, genuinely, hoping we get thumped on Friday.
If we manage to scrape a win, it would be solely down to the players playing their hearts out, and probably a few lucky calls, and nothing to do with McDermott's coaching ability. Were we to win, it would simply paper over any cracks and give McDermott a few more weeks/months grace. Losing is better in the long term.
As much as I'd love to beat Wigan, it would be short term satisfaction, and we'd wake up Saturday morning with McDermott still in charge. A heavy loss is the better result for the good of the team.
Deadly serious.
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| Quote: Richie "We're the extreme, with our focus on winning junior games rather than trying to develop players. PC has nothing to do with it.'"
Absolutely correct - this is particularly prevelant in soccer where the coaches have delusions of being Alex Ferguson!!
What these coaches seem not to understand is - good technique will improve the chances of winning.
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| i would rather wigan play bad every week and win every week rather than play well every week and lose! at the end of the season people will look at the league table and only the points will matter not the performances in the games.
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| Quote: Richie "We're the extreme, with our focus on winning junior games rather than trying to develop players. PC has nothing to do with it.'"
Agree completely. As a coach you have to always have that as the priority. Not everyone does, and there aren't many parents who get this. A winning mentality comes from confidence in your performance, not being so comeptitive and fired up that you burst into tears and storm off every time you drop the ball or lose a game (we have a couple of those, as I suspect does every team). And certainly not being told by coaches that you're useless if you make a mistake during a game and lose (can't count how many times I've heard this).
We have to transition to new rules this year and start playing real rugby, the kids have so much to learn, yet we have coaches at our club who just want to coach their age groups in "winning" rather than getting skills developed. There are many other clubs we play who have the same attitude. Part of it is there is real competition for the better kids and parents tend to like their kids in winning teams.
I've written this year off (I just haven't told the press ), I just don't care what the results are, I want the kids to learn right. We will win plenty though, we have some terrific kids.
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| Quote: Remarkable_Rhinos "I'm actually, genuinely, hoping we get thumped on Friday.
If we manage to scrape a win, it would be solely down to the players playing their hearts out, and probably a few lucky calls, and nothing to do with McDermott's coaching ability. Were we to win, it would simply paper over any cracks and give McDermott a few more weeks/months grace. Losing is better in the long term.
As much as I'd love to beat Wigan, it would be short term satisfaction, and we'd wake up Saturday morning with McDermott still in charge. A heavy loss is the better result for the good of the team.
Deadly serious.'"
BMD won't get fired or kept on as a result of what happens tomorrow night. I want us to stuff the Goons.
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| Quote: Remarkable_Rhinos "I'm actually, genuinely, hoping we get thumped on Friday.
If we manage to scrape a win, it would be solely down to the players playing their hearts out, and probably a few lucky calls, and nothing to do with McDermott's coaching ability.'"
You can't have it both ways.
If we lose it's his fault and if we win it has nothing to do with him? That doesn't stack up at all.
Even if we lose 70-0 Mac will still be at the training ground come Monday morning. So I'd change tact in wanting us to get stuffed.
I'd like to see us win, amazing that ain't it.
It would be nice to see Leeds playing their heart out. But they are putting a shift in terms of effort, they are just falling well short on the application. With a shaky coach behind them it isn't going to be of much help.
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| he is just saying what everyone else is thinking.....
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| Quote: thebloodbath "You can't have it both ways.
If we lose it's his fault and if we win it has nothing to do with him? That doesn't stack up at all.
Even if we lose 70-0 Mac will still be at the training ground come Monday morning. So I'd change tact in wanting us to get stuffed.
I'd like to see us win, amazing that ain't it.
It would be nice to see Leeds playing their heart out. But they are putting a shift in terms of effort, they are just falling well short on the application. With a shaky coach behind them it isn't going to be of much help.'"
Talking sense in the face of tery.
Typical Bloodbath.
Maybe McDermott senses the players are putting too much pressure on themselves and wants to lift some of that by making it clear that they are underdogs for this game (which they are, by some distance - any Leeds fan who doesn't genuinely believe that wants their head testing).
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| McMuppet is a clueless moron and shouldn't be let anywhere near the media. Once again I've had to endure ridicule for being a Leeds fan... from a Bulls fan???
He said "we might be playing s*it at the moment but at least our coach isn't making a tit of himself on national TV."
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