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Quote: digger47 "another below par performance last night but the one thing that stood out for me was Kirke backing of a tackle on Crabtree has he brought it in at the carnegie end and his shirt grabbing patsy at griffin. Not blaming one player but it did make me cringe, always supported kirke but how he got in before the inform Ambler is anyones guess. The last 8 minutes play tbf was worth the entry money if we could only put some of that in earlier.'"


See elsewhere too...but don't mind repeating I think Ambler has to be at least on the bench...prob as you state in place of Kirke. He really looks the part.

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Quote: digger47 "another below par performance last night but the one thing that stood out for me was Kirke backing of a tackle on Crabtree has he brought it in at the carnegie end and his shirt grabbing patsy at griffin. Not blaming one player but it did make me cringe, always supported kirke but how he got in before the inform Ambler is anyones guess. The last 8 minutes play tbf was worth the entry money if we could only put some of that in earlier.'"


Was it Kirke who bomed a certain try in the second half just next to the SS? Was furious at that.

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Quote: Money Mayweather "The defense continues to be below the level it should be. The defense for Patrick try was a disgrace. Our line speed continues to lack intensity at times and we give the opposition playmakers far too much room.

Anyone else think that BJB would be a better option at FB to Smith at the moment? Smith looks slow, and unfit, and just plain lazy at times. I didn't have that much of a problem with the actual miss on Lunt in the first half, but it was how slow Smith was to get accross to him in the first place. Hopefully by next season he will have regained his previous form for Leeds and do well, but at the moment he's a liability.

One final negative point. Why do we wait until we're on the brink of defeat before we attacking with any urgency. The McGuire try for example was one of the few times we actually moved the ball along the line with pace and with runners making themselves available. We need to do that more consistantly.

On a posative note. Buderus was outstanding, and JJB was too in the second half and ran him very close for MotM. McShane was much improved when he came on, especially in defence.'"




Yes the defence is as poor as it's been for some years - we've kept the opposition to less than 20 points in only 6 out of 22 games this season. Hopefully once the team becomes more settled and the 'business end' of the season (and the CC) approaches, it will tighten up.

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Quote: gulfcoast_highwayman "What utter nonsense. It's an automatic sin-binning these days.'"


Unless ya play for Leeds?

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What a slack c*** you are!

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Quote: GIANT DAZ "i was behind the sticks i couldnt see side on and it looked like Leeds got away with a couple of forwards ? please be honest answering that one !!
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Yet another poor display where nothing was learned from last week. Once again no enthusiasm or hunger displayed.

Obviously you can have go's at certain players for this and that, but the two that should really hold their heads in shame on Friday are Smith and Donald. Very weak tackling from both, and back to the pea for heart commitment shown from Donald.

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Quote: Gotcha "Yet another poor display where nothing was learned from last week. Once again no enthusiasm or hunger displayed.
Obviously you can have go's at certain players for this and that, but the two that should really hold their heads in shame on Friday are Smith and Donald. Very weak tackling from both, and back to the pea for heart commitment shown from Donald.'"

Again you come up with this! icon_confused.gif
If there was no hunger or enthusiasm we'd of lost and lost heavily.
I agree the performance wasn't the best but still better than last week imo and they still had the enthusiasm,hunger and desire whatever you want to call it to come back and beat a play-off team.
I think Smithy was the most dissapointing in terms of defence along with Kirke.
They also didn't let 2 controversial tries get them down and bounced back we are struggling to get to our best no doubts but you can't win a game at this level without enthusiasm and hunger.

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Quote: rhinoms "Again you come up with this!
You need to stop been so naive rhinoms.

Just because we win, does not mean we display the qualities we need. You can win and play rubbish, it happens plenty of times in the game. Just like you can lose and play well.

We were lucky that Huddersfield were even poorer than us, and looked like a team that had given up on this season. We lacked enthusiasm and we lacked hunger, whether you like it or not. Our line speed was woeful, and nothing demonstrated the lack of enthusiasm more than when we were losing and twice at a scum we made no intention of trying to form it quickly, we just dawdled.

At least our coach recognised this at the end when he said "We lacked enthusiasm". But following on from various other games the same, I am starting to worry whether he is managing to lift them sufficiently.

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Lee Smith's form is worrying, we will look a lot better when Webb is back IMO.

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Quote: Tony Soprano "Lee Smith's form is worrying, we will look a lot better when Webb is back IMO.'"


Indeed. His kick returns especially arn't up to scratch at the minute.

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Quote: Gotcha "You need to stop been so naive rhinoms.

Just because we win, does not mean we display the qualities we need. You can win and play rubbish, it happens plenty of times in the game. Just like you can lose and play well.

We were lucky that Huddersfield were even poorer than us, and looked like a team that had given up on this season. We lacked enthusiasm and we lacked hunger, whether you like it or not. Our line speed was woeful, and nothing demonstrated the lack of enthusiasm more than when we were losing and twice at a scum we made no intention of trying to form it quickly, we just dawdled.

At least our coach recognised this at the end when he said "We lacked enthusiasm". But following on from various other games the same, I am starting to worry whether he is managing to lift them sufficiently.'"

Lacking enthusiasm doesn't mean there wasn't any at all what do you call the last 10 minutes if we didn't have any enthusiasm or hunger at all as you stated?
We didn't fire into the tackles and play with the intensity we know we can and have seen but they were still enthusiatic and hungry enough to comeback and win.
I've already said we were far from our best but better than last week that's an opinion not naive.!
You can also see we can "step up" as proved with tye games against Saints,Wigan and Wire twice.
Consistency is no where near i completely agree and i also think we aren't a million miles apart with who has/hasn't performed so far this year i just think saying that there was NO enthusiasm or Hunger whatsoever is off the mark because imo you can't win a game without it.

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Quote: Tony Soprano "Lee Smith's form is worrying, we will look a lot better when Webb is back IMO.'"


We certainly will. But Donald can not be excused from Friday either. He was equally poor, as he was last week also with Smith.

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Quote: Tony Soprano "Lee Smith's form is worrying, we will look a lot better when Webb is back IMO.'"

I don't think many will disagree with that.

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