Sutcliffe appeared to be played as a prop last night.

I agree

Wigan fan here so no interest other than hoping you'd both lose

As soon as it happened I said that although in the field of play initially the ball touches the Line whilst Hardaker is in possession.
For me that is dead in goal, Drop out.
Would like to hear Gansons explanaition of this as for me it's one fo the strangest I've seen (One of the worst I saw was the Jack Hughes No Try at your place last year, can't believe it was ruled out?).

This must be the 20th season running where I've heard that.

Referring AGAIN to what Barrie McD said yesterday, he said that playing at Leeds is about the whole package, its the most professional setup that he has experienced anywhere in RL and that the only reason he signed for us when he was "sacked" by Wigan is that he loved coming to Leeds as an opposition player because it was patently obvious how professional the whole package deal was, everything from the guy who looks after the kit to the people who make the breakfasts at the training ground etc etc etc, was done with professionalism - the bloke who has the label of "first team coach" is only a small part of the package.

The CEO has provided his coach with a barely adequate 1st grade squad - which I imagine to be a country mile below the cap - and that quality rich, numerically poor squad is reduced still further once it passes through the coach's own filtration system - which historically has highlighted 1st grade contracted players that will unfortunately need to play their rugby away from Headingley.

A few injuries - only to be expected in RL - and it's down to the bare bones with some players stretched to breaking point and still asked and expected to turn out and perform. There is virtually no competition for places at Headingley and sub standard showings can be virtually ignored with a shrug of the shoulders (if injuries still allow a shrug) safe in the knowledge there's no trusted alternative so selection the following week is a formality when you're part of the 'in crowd.'

tvoc, could you please let us know how many players each club have used in their first team this season, highlighting the number of debuts per club as well so we can see how our squad usage compares to other clubs?

Go on, you know you want to.....

Nope you've lost me there !! Although one wonders why he was dropped

The bench spot that McShane would have had was taken by Sutcliffe...

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You have used the expression "barely adequate" a few times now, what do you define as barely adequate and how much cap space do we have left?

Yes you might be right.
First receiver and run it in forgot your ball handling skills and help out the forwards.
I actually thought he was trying to give him the Stevie Ward role.
IMO he was needed as a halfback not a forward last night.

There are many things I still want to do (but sadly won't) ..... unfortunately that isn't high on the list. I know a straight-forward way to find the numbers each team have used (at least in the regular rounds, ie excluding the Challenge Cup) but identifying which of those have also made their 1st grade debuts would take much more effort and the truth is I'm a lazy b[iastar[/id at heart.

Don't get me wrong there was obviously a refereeing error with the Lima one however I just can't believe they would "Even" it up. However given the lack of accountability for decisions under Cummings I'm not amazed there was nothing more come out of it. And in terms of last night's call I agree and believe it had a much bigger bearing on the final outcome than the Hughes one.

However The Hughes one was an absolute shocker and I just found it strange last year that nothing more was ever made of it i.e. an explanation sought for and reply given.
I was just hoping that in this instance someone gets to the bottom of it and provides an acceptable answer.
Who was the Video Ref last night?
I wonder if Steve ganson will seek an answer for the decision from them?

Hence the little laugh

I wonder if he'll hold himself to account?