Had Tony Smith returned to Leeds in 2011 and coached the club to an identical 5th placed finish, a CC Final and the SL champions, then followed it up in 2012 with victory in the WCC, it would have been regarded by many on here as the second coming of the messiah.

Even 'Lenny the Kirkstaller' would have ditched Jesus for Smith.

McDermott stays IMO... he's earned it.

I can see why you'd say that.

He certainly seems to have made you happier.

Peacock's equal number of penalties given away to Webb's are I imagine more for sloppy technical offences in the many tackles he makes. Does 'Brian' really think that Webb's "agressiveness" in the form of petulant back chat makes up for agressiveness in the forwards ?

What are you talking about?

Since someone pointed out that we were in a similar position last year (getting stuffed by Saints and Wire at this stage of the season by 40 odd points) I have thought well maybe the lads will turn it around again and win matches at the important end of the season. BUT, I still can't get away from the fact that if this is true then the club are expecting fans to pay good money to watch sub-standard performances up to July. How do Leeds expect fans to keep turning up week after week to watch a team playing 2nd rate rugby. Attendances will suffer, having a knock-on effect throughout the club.

Of course Buderus was aggressive, he was on the front foot and made strong tackles infront of the gain line (you don't have to punch people to be aggrssive in rugby). Liam Hood is in his 20's, he's physically ready. Countless players have been brought into the team at this stage and have flourished - countless others have been loaned out recently and then disapeared.

And I'm glad you appreciate my definition of a hooker, anything to help Brian

But I would also add, it you really want to play a half back at 9 then make him a [ibig[/i one like Roby or ...cough...Lowes.

Because thats the business model, it works too, people still pay money for season tickets in the belief that their world will end if they don't.

Does anyone buy a season ticket for The Vue and go to watch every film every week including the ones they don't like ?

Never underestimate the loyalty of your typical sports fan. They keep shelling out the cash, even when their brain tells them they're not getting anything close to value for money.

A season ticket failed to provide value for money when it started offering the equivalent of 2 games free. The last time I purchased a season ticket, there were 15 home games and the season ticket price was the equivalent of paying for 9 and getting 6 games free.

He's doing a pretty good job considering the squad of players he has available to him. I'm sure he'll coach the team to a position lofty enough on the SL ladder to secure a home game in week 1 of the playoffs

Leeds Rhinos are up against it all season because they’re the current Super League and World Club Champions meaning that other teams really get themselves up to play against Leeds. I’m happy as long as Leeds Rhinos play well a couple of times during the season just to give me a glimpse of what to come at the end of the season and in important games. If they win trophies then great.

Brian McDermott has certainly earned his place off the back off a great Challenge Cup run and Super League grand final win last year along the World Club Challenge this year. The current playing standards aren’t pretty at Leeds but you could say that for most of the other super league teams too. Is Brian McDermott and his like responsible for that as well?



I’m around but just keeping a low profile