I'd second that - just behind Hall -

A much better signing than Kyle.

Well there is no point arguing further then is there. If somebody cant tell the difference between 13 players and 17, its a no gamer.

Yeah well aparently his day time show, talking to chavs ITV1, is going well.

You win some you lose some.....

Or in your case, you win some, you lose more.

Not sure I agree with that. He didn't struggle to get into the 17 with Ellis in the team

Says the man who thinks there's a huge distinction in whether someone starts or comes off the bench in their value to the squad.

ROFL

IMO Kirke is an average squad player. but still a decent signing to make as it is a 20 man game.

For me he plays very little game time with JJB, JP etc almost able to play a full game. when he does start i very rarely notice him apart from an occasional run. To say the little game time he plays you would think he would make a bigger impact.

Although i think he has improved over the last couple of years probably because he is now training full time having previously been part time.

possibly more to come he does not infuriate me as he used to!

Just of the top of my head here is a list of current players that whilst being out of form some f***wits on here have decided that we should not renew a contract or get rid instantly

Burrow
Senior
JJB
Sinfield
Bailey
Donald
Ablett
Lautiiti
Kylie
McGuire
Kirke
Diskin
Hall
Smith


I think only Webb & Peacock have been the lucky ones

That was when we tended to use 2 props and 2 backroweers on the bench because we only had one hooker. Ablett/Ellis were also filling in at right centre. I'm not knocking Kirke just questioning DISA's assertion that he is currently a first 13 choice player which IMO he isn't.

Webb's had some criticism, but the majority of that was acknowledged to be part of his return to first team action after a bad injury.

So that just leaves JP, did he get some stick during 2006?

Yes, there were many on here disgruntled that he wasn't as good as when he was at bradford when he's simply done the same as he always has, wherever he's been.

Our fans are easily the least knowledgeable in the league, or certainly the proportion of them that post on here are.

Fair point.

My take on it is that you can't have an international in each position, and he give a certain level of effort and skill, but at low cost. It used to be the role of JJB, but he has now progressed to one of the best 2nd rows in this country, and will be on a fair whack more now.

A decent re-sign. Just hope that we have some new faces in the pipeline, as most of the other clubs are getting their signings sorted for next year too. I don't want us to miss out

There was also the argument that JP wasn't a prop.

It's all flooding back now, well thats a full house BINGO

Not one of our back to back championship winning squad is fit to play for Leeds