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Quote: El Diablo "Loyalty to established players is no bad thing when it comes to retaining young players. It reduces the quantity who get through, but what about the quality? The message can be "get in the first team now, but you'll be binned as soon as the next bright young thing turns up" or it can be "you'll have to be patient, but if you are the reward can be a decade in the first team and a fistful of championship rings like these guys over here."'"


If you were a young centre at Leeds how long can you realistically be expected to wait?

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Quote: Sal Paradise "If you were a young centre at Leeds how long can you realistically be expected to wait?'"


Longer than if you were a young prop, scrum half or stand off maybe?

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Quote: Sal Paradise "If you were a young centre at Leeds how long can you realistically be expected to wait?'"


That depends on whether some of the young backs that we have can hear the call from the NRL. Also with JJB gone next season there is no experienced cover for the backs so a talented centre may get the gig instead of Ablett.

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Quote: Old Feller "Longer than if you were a young prop, scrum half or stand off maybe?'"


Agreed - problem is their career is a short one and their earning potential not excessive - they need to maximise their opportunities. Four years as an understudy to Moon doesn't seem like a great gig to me?

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Any of Ashton Goulding, Ash Handley, Thomas Minns, James Duckworth and Jimmy Keinhorst should be thinking the exact same. When will they break this team.

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If you're a young player, you raise your level to the point where you make it impossible for the coach to ignore you.

If you're not prepared to do that and would rather flounce off somewhere else, you won't be missed.

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Quote: Andy Gilder "If you're a young player, you raise your level to the point where you make it impossible for the coach to ignore you.

If you're not prepared to do that and would rather flounce off somewhere else, you won't be missed.'"


Harshly put, but spot on.

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Quote: Andy Gilder "If you're a young player, you raise your level to the point where you make it impossible for the coach to ignore you.

If you're not prepared to do that and would rather flounce off somewhere else, you won't be missed.'"


Harshly put bot spot on a046.gif

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Quote: DoubleAone "Harshly put bot spot on
icon_smile.gif I meant the point was spot on...but harshly put.

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Clarkson joins widnes for 2015 on season loan.

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Ben White has signed for Swinton Lions from 2015. Another academy player leaving, with Brad England joining Salford Red Devils.

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White was stuck behind the incumbent half-backs, and with Jordan Lilley nipping at his heels behind. Hard to see where he was going to progress at Leeds, and by all accounts he did well on loan at the back end of last season.

England is an odd one. Looked the kind of line-breaking back rower that Leeds are lacking, so I'd be interested to know how much of an effort the club put in to keeping him.

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Quote: finglas " Also with JJB gone next season there is no experienced cover for the backs so a talented centre may get the gig instead of Ablett.'"


Sad to see Jenny go.

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Quote: Andy Gilder "If you're a young player, you raise your level to the point where you make it impossible for the coach to ignore you.

If you're not prepared to do that and would rather flounce off somewhere else, you won't be missed.'"


Your a young half back - no matter how well you perform you are not going to get picked above Sinfield/McGuire no matter how well you play. Same goes for a second row and JJB, same goes for a winger etc. Too many players at Leeds getting picked on past performances rather current form

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I'd normally agree with Andy Gilder's sentiments rather than Sal's but the current coach has shown a real lack of faith in his junior players. It's hard to see his giving youth it's opportunity when he relies so heavily on his senior players (with some justification).

See Robbie Ward and Brad Singleton warming the bench whilst 12 old fella's lose a lead by way of example.

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