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Quote: Marty Grrrrrrrrrr! "Gale has been excellent. I wish we had signed him day Sinfield left. We was in desperate need of someone like him from that day.'"

Totally agree. If he had a quality stand off and a hooker who could pass to him with accuracy he could be sensational.

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Quote: ploinerrhino "I would make it an extended break if i were you'"

Thanks for the advice, Soz but no.

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Quote: ArthurClues "Totally agree. If he had a quality stand off and a hooker who could pass to him with accuracy he could be sensational.'"


Stop being greedy. Thats far too much to ask for.

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Quote: Marty Grrrrrrrrrr! "Gale has been excellent. I wish we had signed him day Sinfield left. We was in desperate need of someone like him from that day.'"

We still had Mags at the time so probably thought we didn't need him.....

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Again it’s money etc but Leeds really should have a champion 6 to go alongside Gale. Having the best half back pairing in SL would go some way to regaining success.

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I worry about those fans pushing for Agar's departure........ taxi and all!
I can appreciate there are other options moving forward but such an early departure in the current climate will not add any value to the playing staff. If he leaves it should be planned at the end of a season with a replacement signed up.
As to concerns about the team and results it hasn't been good this year. Despite our poor performance at the Giants on any other day we might have won.......the opportunities were there. And that is despite all the injuries and suspensions everyone keeps talking about.
However, when all players are fit I still have concerns with the playing roster.
1) Speed is missing in the threequarters and we have been badly exposed over the past couple of years ..... and not just by the the top sides.
2) Creativity in the centres. Despite the youth everyone keeps harping on about we have no real quality in either centre position. Potential yes........ but not the quality I want in the team. I know I need to be patient but two young inxperienced centres worries me. Hurrell worries me too. Yes he can be exciting, but not the quality we really need.
3) In the half's we need someone to complement Gale. Not sure who, but someone with a creative kicking game combined with a turn of pace over 25 metres or so. Unsure about Eastmond ...... we need to give him a chance as thus far everything has been against his development.
4) In the forwards its not so concerning. A ball playing back rower or loose would be good but otherwise it depends on possible retirement / departures at the season end and how Holroyd recovers. Another prop would be a bonus but much will depend on how the pack progress this year and whether King improves....... its early days for him. Big question for me despite his supporters on here, is how Smith progresses. Fans see things in him that I simply don't. Thus far its all been about potential but I sense he doesn't think quickly enough to actually create the opportunities and so often runs up blind alleys. In his position I want someone who reads the game much better and provides opportunities for others to have real opportunities. I'll give Smith 10 for effort but otherwise I hold my breath.
When the squad is fit we will trouble most teams but we do need much more moving forward as indicated above.
As for the coaching staff, which is a team in itself, they need some stability in key player positions to have any chance for the Rhinos to impress. So far they have had little to work with. Fingers crossed though.....things can only get better. I sense they will! Unfortunately after the past 18 months we are all impatient.

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Quote: Rhinos1927 "I worry about those fans pushing for Agar's departure........ taxi and all!
I can appreciate there are other options moving forward but such an early departure in the current climate will not add any value to the playing staff. If he leaves it should be planned at the end of a season with a replacement signed up.
As to concerns about the team and results it hasn't been good this year. Despite our poor performance at the Giants on any other day we might have won.......the opportunities were there. And that is despite all the injuries and suspensions everyone keeps talking about.
However, when all players are fit I still have concerns with the playing roster.
1) Speed is missing in the threequarters and we have been badly exposed over the past couple of years ..... and not just by the the top sides.
2) Creativity in the centres. Despite the youth everyone keeps harping on about we have no real quality in either centre position. Potential yes........ but not the quality I want in the team. I know I need to be patient but two young inxperienced centres worries me. Hurrell worries me too. Yes he can be exciting, but not the quality we really need.
3) In the half's we need someone to complement Gale. Not sure who, but someone with a creative kicking game combined with a turn of pace over 25 metres or so. Unsure about Eastmond ...... we need to give him a chance as thus far everything has been against his development.
4) In the forwards its not so concerning. A ball playing back rower or loose would be good but otherwise it depends on possible retirement / departures at the season end and how Holroyd recovers. Another prop would be a bonus but much will depend on how the pack progress this year and whether King improves....... its early days for him. Big question for me despite his supporters on here, is how Smith progresses. Fans see things in him that I simply don't. Thus far its all been about potential but I sense he doesn't think quickly enough to actually create the opportunities and so often runs up blind alleys. In his position I want someone who reads the game much better and provides opportunities for others to have real opportunities. I'll give Smith 10 for effort but otherwise I hold my breath.
When the squad is fit we will trouble most teams but we do need much more moving forward as indicated above.
As for the coaching staff, which is a team in itself, they need some stability in key player positions to have any chance for the Rhinos to impress. So far they have had little to work with. Fingers crossed though.....things can only get better. I sense they will! Unfortunately after the past 18 months we are all impatient.'"

We have been absolutely spoilt wrotten as fans, and the predicament of last few years is hard. But we got some good people at this club and we'll get there.......

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Quote: Mild Rover "I empathise with this. After the first game of this season, when Hull KR came back from 28-4 down to tie the score against Catalans but then lost on dogcack point, the accumulated sadness was too much and I decided to take an emotional half step back. The relentlessness of losing nearly every week in 2020, the frustrations and failures of 2019, Peacock’s reign of error in 2016, the humiliation of the 2015 cup final... sometimes you need a bit of a break.

It does also make me think though that the routine success clubs like Leeds, Saints and Wigan have enjoyed in the modern era has maybe become addictive and not good for the game - even for the successful. I know you’ve had some fairly ropey seasons, it is partly about performance relative to expectation, and there are probably Swinton, Whitehaven or even Bradford fans who’d roll their eyes at my complaints. However, Leeds did win the cup less than 7 months ago. This is a brilliant and realistic post. Think we've been spoilt with our club for a long time. Must look like kids throwing toys out, to a true suffering fan like you.
I empathise and have utmost respect for you posting on here......

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Quote: Rhinos1927 "I worry about those fans pushing for Agar's departure........ taxi and all!
I can appreciate there are other options moving forward but such an early departure in the current climate will not add any value to the playing staff. If he leaves it should be planned at the end of a season with a replacement signed up.
As to concerns about the team and results it hasn't been good this year. Despite our poor performance at the Giants on any other day we might have won.......the opportunities were there. And that is despite all the injuries and suspensions everyone keeps talking about.
However, when all players are fit I still have concerns with the playing roster.
1) Speed is missing in the threequarters and we have been badly exposed over the past couple of years ..... and not just by the the top sides.
2) Creativity in the centres. Despite the youth everyone keeps harping on about we have no real quality in either centre position. Potential yes........ but not the quality I want in the team. I know I need to be patient but two young inxperienced centres worries me. Hurrell worries me too. Yes he can be exciting, but not the quality we really need.
3) In the half's we need someone to complement Gale. Not sure who, but someone with a creative kicking game combined with a turn of pace over 25 metres or so. Unsure about Eastmond ...... we need to give him a chance as thus far everything has been against his development.
4) In the forwards its not so concerning. A ball playing back rower or loose would be good but otherwise it depends on possible retirement / departures at the season end and how Holroyd recovers. Another prop would be a bonus but much will depend on how the pack progress this year and whether King improves....... its early days for him. Big question for me despite his supporters on here, is how Smith progresses. Fans see things in him that I simply don't. Thus far its all been about potential but I sense he doesn't think quickly enough to actually create the opportunities and so often runs up blind alleys. In his position I want someone who reads the game much better and provides opportunities for others to have real opportunities. I'll give Smith 10 for effort but otherwise I hold my breath.
When the squad is fit we will trouble most teams but we do need much more moving forward as indicated above.
As for the coaching staff, which is a team in itself, they need some stability in key player positions to have any chance for the Rhinos to impress. So far they have had little to work with. Fingers crossed though.....things can only get better. I sense they will! Unfortunately after the past 18 months we are all impatient.'"


Agree with most of the post. The last part is spot on re frustrations of fans, we’ve had enough of struggling and after the relative success of last season we want to kick on now, had enough of struggling at the bottom end of the table over the last 2 to 3 years. The transition is going on far too long, yes injuries are a major reason but there some built up frustrations for a lot of people

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Bit of optimism to start the day. How would this team look to start next year.....?
Wouldn't even need any signings.
Pace and strike in this team. Hurrell retained but for second row.......

Walker
Broadbent
Newman
Sutty
Handley
Gale
Eastmond
Smith
Hurrell
Mellor
Tet
Leeming
Mik

Bench-
Holroyd
Dwyer
Thompson
Walters

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Quote: Shabino "Bit of optimism to start the day. How would this team look to start next year.....?
Wouldn't even need any signings.
Pace and strike in this team. Hurrell retained but for second row.......

Walker
Broadbent
Newman
Sutty
Handley
Gale
Eastmond
Smith
Hurrell
Mellor
Tet
Leeming
Mik

Bench-
Holroyd
Dwyer
Thompson
Walters'"


Watchable but would still need upgrading assuming a gf is the ultimate aim. Unless Eastmond proves to be a genius signing l don't reckon those 1,6&9 positions are collectively strong enough otherwise.

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Quote: Clearwing "Watchable but would still need upgrading assuming a gf is the ultimate aim. Unless Eastmond proves to be a genius signing l don't reckon those 1,6&9 positions are collectively strong enough otherwise.'"

Realistically GF wouldn't be likely next year....
Another year of young blood and building I think....

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Broadbent to wing is an option - I think you could get the wrong impression with him matching McGilvary that time, he had the angle on momentum on him, I don’t think Jack is wing-quick really. Tindall is the fastest man at the club I believe.

I’m really not sure about the Eastmond signing. Jury is out.

Hurrell to back row is an option but he’ll have to keep hold of the ball in traffic.

Walker is very talented but made of glass and also has errors in him. Not been too impressed with his skill at times. However a great player going forward and time on his side still.

I think honestly what we have is 1 or 2 too many reserves for positions where we just need 1 star quality player with the next best Academy lad behind them. We have a load of mid-table quality players in depth.

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Quote: KaeruJim "Broadbent to wing is an option - I think you could get the wrong impression with him matching McGilvary that time, he had the angle on momentum on him, I don’t think Jack is wing-quick really. Tindall is the fastest man at the club I believe.

I’m really not sure about the Eastmond signing. Jury is out.

Hurrell to back row is an option but he’ll have to keep hold of the ball in traffic.

Walker is very talented but made of glass and also has errors in him. Not been too impressed with his skill at times. However a great player going forward and time on his side still.

I think honestly what we have is 1 or 2 too many reserves for positions where we just need 1 star quality player with the next best Academy lad behind them. We have a load of mid-table quality players in depth.'"

Yeah I agree. Realistically you can't just sign star players anymore though. Think we've been pretty lucky with Tet and Hurrell.
SL marquee signings have generally been very hit and miss...

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Quote: Marty Grrrrrrrrrr! "Weve got Myler and Walker out who are our main 2 full backs. Take Zak.and French out of Wigan and Coote and Welsby out of Saints.

Newman is missing, a top young centre. Take Percival from Saints and Gildart at Wigan.

Lui and Gale are our main halves and McLelland is a young back up so lets take Hastings, Leuluai and Harry Smith out of Wigan squad and Fages, Lomax and Dodd from Saints.

Our main forward Tetevano, good player, is missing. I would say Walmsley is Saints equivalant and Bateman is Wigans marquee forward so take them out.

Holroyd is out as a young back up. So lets take Harvard and Lees out of there respective teams.

Cam Smith is out for us who is a regular in the 17 for us a young forward with potential so lets remove Shorrocks and Batchelor who probably arent at Cam's level.

Now how do Wigan and Saints look? Not too good but that being said we arent at Saints and Wigan levels anyway. We lost by 1 point away from home.

No team can handle the men out we currently have.

Lets hope bodies return asap.'"


Remember we had 4 tries chalked off, and 2 of those were shown in slow mo which proved the ref wrong, so the difference in the score would have bee signifantly higher, having said that I was quite impressed with the Rhinos performance as key players are out, but all teams go through injuries and you still end up with 13 v 13 it`s up to ther players to step up, and Leeds did give us a good workout.

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