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| IIRC doesn't that £500k "pledged" include the gate money from the Leeds game, plus all the money raised so far by auctions etc? So only a relatively small percentage of that will be cash pledges that they now have to chase up.
Anyone with access to Companies House records able to see how much the Bulls declared as directors remuneration in their last filed accounts? I'd hate to think - as G1 suggests - that the directors salaries are being paid off as part of this first tranche of "liabilities".
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| Quote: otleyrhino "T and A'"
BAN THIS FILTH
[size(I'm 37 years old and still amused that Bradford's local rag is called the T&A)[/size
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| AFAIK none of the directors get any remuneration at all. But I could be wrong.
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| Quote: Bullseye "AFAIK none of the directors get any remuneration at all. But I could be wrong.'"
One could argue that they are being paid what they're worth.
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| Quote: Old Feller "One could argue that they are being paid what they're worth.'"
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| The long-term issue isn't getting rid of the liabilities they have right now, its the sustainability of the business moving forward. If they owe money they can't pay, it doesn't matter whether its £1m or £10m - they need to raise the money to pay it or go bust.
What concerns me is whether once they have received the £1m are they solvent on an ongoing basis?
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| If they ARE Losing 100k a month, I'd say no, not as it stands.
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| If they are losing £100k a month then they have problems that no fundraising can solve. That's £1.2M per year, so they need to cut costs significantly (presumably only player salaries can let them realistically do that) or increase income on an ongoing basis.
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| I'm pleased for some of the bulls fans, in that they have dug deep to save their club, but reading the report in League Express on Tuesday I got a bit angry. The source of my anger is that this is a private company, which has somehow (and this, it must be said, was a masterstroke by an apparently inept board) come to be treated as a charity. People have handed over £500k to a private business, no strings attached. £14k from a bucket collection? There are actual charities doing selfless, worthwhile work out there who would have quite liked over a ton of coinage. But no, all that philanthropic good will has been poured without thought into the coffers of a business with it's own shareholders, which needed it because it had squandered every penny it had before.
I don't want to see the Bulls go under, but the whole thing feels quite wrong to me.
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| Chris Caisley will be well chuffed that he still owns 25% of an ongoing concern instead of 25% of fekk all.
He might be able to finish that massive extension he's put on his house now - I bet he'll thank all those Bulls fans that helped him build it every time he sits in his oversized living room watching his 60" widescreen.
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| Stood at Odsal last week felt like sitting in the audience at Children in Need.
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| Quote: The Eagle "Stood at Odsal last week felt like sitting in the audience at Children in Need.'"
My point exactly.
I'm waiting for the TV ads with Peter Hood, in black and white, sat looking wide-eyed and vulnerable, while a patronising voice-over tells me that every 5 seconds somebody at Bradford Bulls spends money they don't have. But that I can help give boys like Peter a chance to live a normal, happy life.
"Pledge to save a Rugby League club. You don't hate Rugby League. And kittens. Do you?"
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| Quote: El Diablo "I'm pleased for some of the bulls fans, in that they have dug deep to save their club, but reading the report in League Express on Tuesday I got a bit angry. The source of my anger is that this is a private company, which has somehow (and this, it must be said, was a masterstroke by an apparently inept board) come to be treated as a charity. People have handed over £500k to a private business, no strings attached. £14k from a bucket collection? There are actual charities doing selfless, worthwhile work out there who would have quite liked over a ton of coinage. But no, all that philanthropic good will has been poured without thought into the coffers of a business with it's own shareholders, which needed it because it had squandered every penny it had before.
I don't want to see the Bulls go under, but the whole thing feels quite wrong to me.'"
Your analogy to a charity is a bad one IMO. Bulls fans and others have presumably contributed because the continued existence of that team is important to them. In other words they perceive they'll be getting something in return for their dosh, assuming the club survives of course. Very different to the motives of those giving to a charity I'd suggest. Id also be surprised if much of the money has been given without thought on the part of the donors.
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| The bulls will miraculously hit their £1m target at zero hour I expect!!! Yes!!! It is a con ofthe highest proportions, I bet the money is already in the kitty!!!
We'll soon see yet more money wasted on chav's in gokarts and fireworks etc....
The RFL have pulled yet another money spinning flanker
I just wonder, if it had been Leeds, Wigan or Saints for example... Would we of been given the time scale to get the money together?? Or drastically shorter???
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| Quote: Super Scotty Donald "The bulls will miraculously hit their £1m target at zero hour I expect!!! Yes!!! It is a con ofthe highest proportions, I bet the money is already in the kitty!!!
We'll soon see yet more money wasted on chav's in gokarts and fireworks etc....
The RFL have pulled yet another money spinning flanker'"
I said the exact same thing when it was announced in the first place. Complete bull5h1t to me.
I am in two minds whether to feel sorry for the poor bulls fans or not. On one hand the bulls management have completely got them hook line and sinker. But on the other hand, why have they been so bloody gullible.
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