Please watch back and note - it was the coach that decided to play on with the penalty a minute before HT. Burrow looked to be about to signal to go for goal and Mac was shown giving the 'roll on' signal even though we had looked about as threatening as baby at a bar brawl.

It was the coach who took that call before HT.

Before the season started I thought we would line up with Sutty at FB, Mags and Lilley at 6&7 with one of Burrow or Golding on the bench.
Golding has earned his place next week, Though he really needs to have abit more confidence when popping up on the attack and try not to get turned over when bringing the ball back.

The use of the bench was again ridiculous. How many minutes did Mullally, Keinhorst and Baldwinson play?.

You don't remember Gareth Stephens or Richard Gunn?

Liam Sutcliffe was never anything close to best in his age group. In fact at Junior and scholarship, I bet he wouldn't have been close to top 50.

He has got better with age, and I suspect that is what appeals to the club, in that he puts the work in to improve, and has the right attitude.

I will give you Vass and Sinfield though. And you missed off Walker and Ward.

He got in the England Academy 24 for 2013 - not sure what that says?

FWIW I doubt the coach made the decision go send Liley to Bradford.

It's our chief executive that seems to think they are a club worth saving.

It means he got better with age (well to some),as said. At Junior and scholarship he didn't have any hype.

Probably the case.

i could throw in Jamie field and to some extent nick Fozzard, but i was thinking more pivotal type players. Gareth Stephens yes, and Francis Maloney plus Gavin Brown were all highly rated as well.

but vass and sinfield both were meant to be a cut above, the first time i heard of sutcliffe was an interview with mcdermott who was saying they were struggling to hold him back he was that good. and a debut was coming in next few weeks and i'd not heard that since just before sinfield made is debut.

I agree that the highlight was Golding and the lowlight(s) were the half backs, but it's only the first game of the season so no need to get our knickers in a twist just yet..

I wonder though, had McGuire been fit would Sutcliffe have even played? If so, where?

I think we have a real problem in that none of our spine is particularly creative, Burrow Sutcliffe Golding and Parcell all seem to be primarily running threats.

Even though Golding was very good in defence yesterday, we might need to move Sutcliffe to fullback, as he showed last year that he can create when given the extra space.

Considering we had a lot of possession and territory but only managed to come out with 4 points when it should've easily been at least 30, what's the excuse this time?

Kirkstall training ground and other facilities were too dry and they'd spent too long there?

There were several highlights.

1. Free coach travel to the game.
2. Free pair of socks.
3. Free booklet with list of SL fixtures.
4. Coupon for a free 300g tin of Batchelors Mushy Peas.
5. Missing Saints score because I was still queuing to purchase a drink.

Leeds therefore won 4-0 on my watch

In all this has anybody considered that Saints defence was very good?
Or was it all Bentham's fault not enforcing a strict 10 metres?
Just speculating you understand, I've no other agenda.