they were OK. it was more middlesbroughs appalling defending and giving the ball away constantly in stupid areas

I fancy top two being Leeds and Sheff Utd, I've a hunch that Sunderland may well win Playoffs though Burnley's defence could be quite potent in those games. Interesting to see Sheff U and Burnley play each other with about 3 games to go...

[quote="tad rhino":1hsve38o]they were OK. it was more middlesbroughs appalling defending and giving the ball away constantly in stupid areas[/quote:1hsve38o] I think you’re doing them a disservice. Boro weren’t good, but sometimes you’ve gotta give a team credit for what they achieve in their own right rather than just saying the opposition were crap. They played some very good stuff and looked a well balanced team.

Good result today Burnley with yet another draw. Win on Monday and it will be huge

massive. yet again sheff u were poor. they won't keep on winning while poor every week either

[quote="tad rhino":2h4v4z8f]massive. yet again sheff u were poor. they won't keep on winning while poor every week either[/quote:2h4v4z8f] Poor compared to what or who ? I watched them on Wednesday and they played well. We need to win tomorrow to have acquired the same number of points as them this season. I’m sure if you went over to a pub full of Sheff Utd fans and told them how poor they’d been this season they would laugh you out of the place. When the great Leeds team won the title in 1969 they had more points than they had goals scored, and it was only two points for a win back then. Our current team has scored as many goals as the ‘69 lads won the title with already (66), but that doesn’t make them a better team. At the end of the day it’s about winning games and accumulating points which Sheff Utd have done at a great rate after 33 matches.

my neighbours a season ticket holder. he tells me. and so do 2 of my workmates who go. and they don't laugh. they were garbage v Portsmouth, ok Wednesday and poor again yesterday. and I never said they been poor all season. I said they've scraped a lot of 1 goal wins when they havnt played well.dont make things up

[quote="tad rhino":3a6p7phc]my neighbours a season ticket holder. he tells me. and so do 2 of my workmates who go. and they don't laugh. they were garbage v Portsmouth, ok Wednesday and poor again yesterday. and I never said they been poor all season. I said they've scraped a lot of 1 goal wins when they havnt played well.dont make things up[/quote:3a6p7phc] Wilder thinks they’ve done really well despite being beset by injuries, I would tend to value his opinion over a Leeds fan with rose tinted spectacles. Sheff Utd have won 7 out of their last 8 games and that kind of form will invariably take them up. Ideally your description of their “poor” form (3 wins out of the 3 games you mention) will lead to a terrible run of future matches in which they drop lots of points and hand the title to us. Football doesn’t work like that, and Wilder won’t give a s### about people saying how poor his team have been playing when the ultimate goal is to win matches and get over the line.

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second best. guess me and wilder will have to disagree with you on this one....

[quote="tad rhino":2m1kfh37]second best. guess me and wilder will have to disagree with you on this one....[/quote:2m1kfh37] You’re way behind Tad. Are you stuck in a time warp ? Might have made your argument a bit more plausible if you had put Wilder’s post match interview from yesterday up. You know, the one where he talks about it “being a great week” for the club, how “brilliant” they played against Boro on Wednesday, and how it’s “all about winning games”. Of course that doesn’t fit your agenda so you put an interview up from 3 games ago. Looks like me and Wilder will disagree with you Tad. By the way, it looks like you’re the only person in the UK that thought Sheff U were just “okay” against Boro, contrary to all the media reports suggesting otherwise.

3 ganes ago, 7 days, is in the past? only in your reasoning, i guess. Luton battered them first half, as wilder alluded to in his press conference. guess you missed that but. anyway leave it at that, or you'll only ruin this thread like every other one you go on.

My boss is a Sheff U season ticket holder and says they’ve been very fortunate of late, said Portsmouth should have been 4 up against them the other week. But, they keep finding a way and credit to them for that

[quote="tad rhino":n8rbnf04]3 ganes ago, 7 days, is in the past? only in your reasoning, i guess. Luton battered them first half, as wilder alluded to in his press conference. guess you missed that but. anyway leave it at that, or you'll only ruin this thread like every other one you go on.[/quote:n8rbnf04] Yes it’s time to park the bus on this one. Your last comment is very childish without any basis .

Surely the object is to win matches - it doesn't matter how. Leeds beat Leicester at home last season despite being second best the whole game. Yet many on here were saying what a great win!! You can't have it both ways. If Sheffield Utd have played poorly and are still winning games what happens when their form picks up?

[quote="tad rhino":1uqsxu0b]3 ganes ago, 7 days, is in the past? only in your reasoning, i guess. Luton battered them first half, as wilder alluded to in his press conference. guess you missed that but. anyway leave it at that, or you'll only ruin this thread like every other one you go on.[/quote:1uqsxu0b] He's almost ruined it, used to enjoy this thread, I've almost given up on this one too.

[quote="leedsbarmyarmy":21yik4zo]He's almost ruined it, used to enjoy this thread, I've almost given up on this one too.[/quote:21yik4zo] Stop stirring Drama Queen. There’s about an hour to kick off at the biggest game of our season so far. I fancy Leeds by two goals. What about you ?

That’s our centre forward problem solved lol.

wow. throats so sore. Just got home and what scenes! mental.

I’m still away so missed it, great news to wake up to, huge win

Sunderland look a good side with potential - can see them being the third team to be promoted. Why did he not start Rothwell - he made a huge difference - Gruev's dead ball kicking is poor. The defending for the Sunderland goal was really poor not sure any of the starters enhanced the game. I agree with Tad James' end product is very poor most of the time. As they say in Sheffield a win is a win doesn't matter how it comes.

[quote="tad rhino":1p6bpv9p]wow. throats so sore. Just got home and what scenes! mental.[/quote:1p6bpv9p] Amazing mate... this team will be the death of us all ! We totally bossed that game, i was calling for Rothwell and Pascal from half way through the first half, Gruev was offering us very little, we didn't need his defensive game. We needed Rothwell to create something and his excellent set piece delivery. Pascal also is our best threat in the air by a distance, he just has that instinct and power. He's really turning out to be a very good player. Sunderland best team to come to Elland Rd all season, i said a few days ago on here i fancy them to get promotion via the playoffs and i hope they do. They played some nice stuff and were very brave. Isadoor is a good striker, fast and powerful and can finish. Le Fee has some prem quality to him and in the main they defended well. We did very well to win that one and i dare say, the team last season would have lost that, as the midfield wasn't creative enough. Takes the pressure off Monday now away at Sheff U. A point will do nicely, anything else is a bonus. But we have nothing to fear there if we play our game. Be interesting to see if he starts Gruev again. Personally i'd go Pascal and CB as set pieces again could be a factor, and Ampadu into midfield (thought he looked much better there last night when Farke moved him) with Rothwell to come on.. it's a real tricky one though as Rothwell looked superb.

gruev has been good in recent games, excellent. him and tanaka were off it last night. you might say rothwells delivery was excellent but iirc we've only got 1 from a set piece of his this season. he is OK, a decent championship player. everyone saying why not start him, I'm guessing 98% would have started with that side

I was disappointed he didn't start Rothwell, i was saying to friends last night at the start of the match. Rothwell is much much more creative than Gruev. Ampadu is better than Gruev also in that role. I'm not saying Gruev is poor, far from it, i rate him, but against teams who are good defensively and especially when we're at home, i don't think he's the right option, away from home against a good team, different conversation (though i do think Ampadu is the better player).

I think Rothwell will have felt a bit cheesed off that after starting in the 7-0 against Cardiff he hasn’t started a league game since. He’s had a really good season and I don’t think many people saw him being dropped for the last 3 games. There was a theory that away from home against the bigger teams Gruev gives us better defensive cover, and against all the other teams Rothwell’s your man, especially at home. It’s a massive headache in the best possible way for Farke now. Your set piece specialist who’s had a really good season has just helped topple a big rival with two top quality deliveries to win the game, and you have the joint best team in the league next up. We’ll have to trust Farke on this one, and in fairness to the fella, he keeps churning the results out.