I think potentially we could meet six times.

2 in league - 1 @ magic - 1 in CC - 1 in super 8s - 1 in semi play offs or grand final.

Isn't that all sport in most country's ? Madrid and Barcelona, Bayern, Utd city Chelsea nal, Wigan saints wire Leeds ?? The smaller clubs enjoy the days in the sun more as they may be our last. Traditionally we start with huge disadvantages, finance - which is not an issue with us for the first time ever, Success - the best players want to win trophys so head to the biggest clubs, so we must counter that with other positives.
We won't flop in 2017, we will compete well, how well we will find out but I do fancy us for T8 when all the recruitment is done with Wakefield Widnes and Cas making way for Leeds Huddersfield and Ourselves

Spot on.

You also only need to look at the likes of Warrington to show clubs can become successful as well as fail.

I just hope that Leigh/Beaumont don't do a Koukash and look for short term glory, because it isn't going to happen. Consistent investment in the right areas of the club (ie not just the first team) is the way to become a big, successful club.

Maurice if you think that you will finish ahead of Cas next season you are deluded , i notice you have just signed another over the hill forward from Catalan

Glenn Stewart was excellent early in the season. Not sure what has gone on at Catalan but IMO he is still a class act and a great signing for Leigh. Not really what we need age wise but I think he would have improved Leeds. Can get his centre and winger moving well with good ball as well as being a good defender.

They need to be realistic and not try to reach for the moon. Staying up next year is all that they should care about.

He's 1 year older than Galloway

and? i'm 20 years older than Galloway, with no knees's and i'm quicker. trust me that's no recommendation

Stewart left his fridge in Sydney though.

Absolutely right and i also agree with what mark laurie put, signings like Stewart will give them every chance of mixing it with the sides in the middle of the table.

Will that include you,or have you become invincible again..

Its not really, its a kind of SL-centric view.

Warrington have been in the top division for the history of RL, they are the 4th most successful side in the challenge cup, and have never ever been relegated. Taken on a wider view/longer view, it was Bradford who were the interloper on to a traditional big four of Leeds, Wigan, Saints and Warrington. Outside a decade or so that co-incided with the beginning of SL. Bradford were not, by any measure, a real big club. Bradfords current plight, is more of a reversion to mean, and the period 1996-2006 was more the outlier.

That, big 4, have won 53 of 120 challenge cups played and 24 of the last 30. They have won 45 of the 90 league titles played for since the return to a national league after the first world war (not including the war-time leagues in ww2) and thats gotten even more concentrated during the pro era, Where they have won 16 of the 20 SL titles, and made up 24 of the 32 Grand Finalists.

'consistent investment in the right areas' has brought Huddersfield no challenge cup wins, and 0 Grand Final appearances, Hull have had huge investment and moved to a great new stadium and made huge strides in becoming a big club off the field, they have 2ccs and being comfortably beaten in a GF to show for it, Cas are held up as a model of how to run a 'smaller club' they havent won an championship in their history and havent won a CC in 30 years. In the 10 years since promotion Hull KR have had millions pumped in to them, on and off the field, I can't see a 50-0 loss in a CC final as a good return for that, and they may not even be in SL next year.

The fact is Hugo is right, RL has always had success concentrated in a few clubs, the change to professionalism has exacerbated that, smaller clubs have been left behind both on and off the field and cannot compete on a regular basis. People hold up our struggles this year as evidence 'anything can happen' but the fact is, this historically bad year for us, would delight Leigh next year.

*Will