Danny Mcguire,

Danny Mcguire was the best half back on the field at any stage of the game

the reason being, Eastmond and Tomkins played so far wide in the time they were on the pitch together they cant really be called half backs (and for the rest of the game bar that 15 mins or so, Tomkins did nothing bar trying to throw 20 metre passes when it was clearly the wrong choice)

we simply cannot play 80 minutes with no half backs to speak of and a loose forward playing hooker,

im not sure why we dont play all four together

our best showing this year was when all four where on the pitch, imo the best showing we had in the WC we had all Mcguire, Sinfield, Burrow and Price on the pitch

if we need to try something different, lets do it,

lets go

Smith (or S Briscoe, depends what you want from your FB, i think we need Smiths returns, and if there is a game to take the risk its this one)
Hall
Ellis
Shenton
Briscoe (or if yo have gone S Briscoe at FB, Lee Smith)
Mcguire
Tomkins
Peacock
Roby
Graham
Westwood
Burgess
Sinfield

Eastmond
Carvell
Morley
Crabtree

Eastmond has great impact, he can come on for Roby and basically play where he wants, run around and get involved ducking and diving and causing trouble, have him playing as a 2nd stand off in the Centre position outside Ellis who is our best defender

Move Sinfield to hooker and Burgess to Loose forward, and have all of Mcguire directing the play as scrum half, and Tomkins and Eastmond causing problems with their running game either side of the field

that way we have lots of creativity but dont lose any size

Fixed the typo..doh.

It's funny, but we talk about lack of centres now, but I've just seen Keith Mumby played 4, for all three tests against Australia and NZ on the '84 tour. Jeezus.

He was the worst player on the field at any stage of the game. McGuire is the player who should be dropped. He won't be, but he should be.

OBSESSED

The 82 results were down to a combination of things, notably the isolation of the game in England (although the likes of Steve Norton and Topliss had played in Oz), the fact that a generation of what had been very good players in the early 70s were hanging around without being pressured for their position for club or country (see the likes of Steve Nash as an example), and the simple fact that the game in Oz jumped forward about 20 gears, including the production of some genuine all-time greats like Pearce, Lewis, Kenny, Sterling, Meninga and Grothe.

One of the things that is never really credited IMO is the performance of GB on the 84 tour. Yes, we lost all the tests, but didn't get hammered and were actually quite competitive. That was one heck of a turnaround in just 2 years. Probably the biggest disappointment to me was 86 - GB taklked the talk and had some good players around but were blown apart.

Anyway, re McGuire, I expect he'll get another go against NZ, but he may well be on his last chance for England.

As for Roby and Sinfield switching roles, I can think of far worse ideas. Probably because I had the same one myself.

If Roby plays 13 he's basically just a very small back row forward. It makes no real sense, you play Wilkin instead surely?

Smith's spot on and booing an individual England player off the pitch is a f'ing disgrace. I know the game was played in Lancashire but even them lot should know better.

Also, is Smith looking to keep Eastmond as an impact sub?

Roby does spell a bit at 13 for saints though (when him and KC are on the pitch). I'd also say Roby's size is deceptive - he's probably both quicker and stronger in impact than Wilkin.

If we want a big strong 13 we could use Ellis or Burgess.

Roby seemed a bit lost when he was still out there and Sinfield was playing acting half - just following Sinfield around the pitch as if we were supposed to have a queue of players to go to acting half.

Roby is small for a forward but he does seem to be able to punch above his weight at this level.

I dont think anyone could argue if he was dropped, he was poor.

But then lot's of virtual coaches on rlfans have been bleating about not having the same half back combo for a full test for x amount of years?

Tom Briscoe, Lee Smith and Danny McGuire have all been dropped for the game v NZ on Saturday.