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This 100%.

Surely we’re not so insecure that everyone has to be forced to sing the bloody national anthem? It’s a free country. If the lad doesn’t want to sing it that’s his business and nobody else’s.

Because it is dreadful?

Quote: tigertot "Because it is dreadful?'" Yeah it should be this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bzWSJG93P8 Or this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNEawM6vZf4

Quote: tigertot "Because it is dreadful?'" Yeah it should be this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bzWSJG93P8 Or this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNEawM6vZf4

Yes it is. The rest of the team are working class lads, Keinhorst would appear to have come from a more middle class background, snowflake territory. A lot of university types seem to be permanently making a point about something.

Seems a little odd to play the national anthems when there are Australians in the English team.

There may not be a political agenda. I like our national anthem but I wouldn’t necessarily sing along if there was a microphone close by.

He could have been thinking game related thoughts

Should the Australians in our team have sung the Australian National Anthem?
If not why not it`s their country of birth.
Would have been funny had they done so though.
Probably best to leave national anthems for internationals.

Quote: Bullseye "Yeah it should be this: I'm going with The Archers. Or even https://youtu.be/lAl4dgbcpU8

Quote: Bullseye "Yeah it should be this: I'm going with The Archers. Or even https://youtu.be/lAl4dgbcpU8

I'm betting they don't play the national anthems of the teams for the final of the football World Club Challenge (given how many countries are represented in most of the top European teams)

Maybe because it’s a load of outdated rubbish about God and the Queen. Neither I would ever sing for.

As soon as you say Snowflake you put yourself firmly in the narrow minded Trump/Farage territory.

Also, maybe he considers himself German?? But don’t let that stop you making stupid inverted snobbish comments about him going to university!

Perhaps we killed some of his ancestors during the two world wars?

Imagine campaigning against war and mass murder, or even for all groups of people to have equal rights. As you say snowflake fools.

I have heard on the grapevine however, some universities now consider allowing working class people to attend their institutions.

I thought individually we had a dig but collectively hardly anything clicked.There huge pack then throw in some World Class players aswell is anyone really surprised by the result?
Also lets be honest we were always up against with so many forwards then losing Ward & Walker was going to bite aswell.
I think it'll be good experience for many of our lads & something they can learn from.
With regards to Keinhorst not singing the National Anthem it's a democracy & freedom of choice simple as that really.

Maybe because Keinhorst represents Germany at international level he thought it wrong to then sing another national anthem?

Not really fussed is someone doesn't sing it and it doesn't have to mean anything significant because it could've been even something as little as they feel awkward singing in such an open occasion.

Gary Neville was criticised for not doing it in football but said it was simply because he was too focused on the match he was about to play rather than any reason more deeper.