FORUMS > Leeds Rhinos > OUT MS 2019 | Kallum Watkins - Gold Coast Titans |
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| Quote: Ex-Swarcliffe Rhino "Well if nothing else its a massive statement of intent that this teams days are numbered and there's no favourites.
I can see a few more "negotiations" going on behind the scenes too, but as mentioned correctly above, "wanting" to move deadweight on is one thing, actually being "able" to is another.'"
Pity Ablett & JJB were excluded from the NO FAVOURITES list in Oct 2018. Great servants but no way should they have had 2019 contracts.
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| Quote: Homer Simpson "Pity Ablett & JJB were excluded from the NO FAVOURITES list in Oct 2018. Great servants but no way should they have had 2019 contracts.'"
But they did and it hasn’t worked out plus they won’t be on anywhere near the money Watkins is on, we are now looking forward just harping on about past mistakes won’t help anything
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| It’s really sad Kallum has left this way, regardless of what some say on here, he’s been a fabulous player, and ambassador for the game, seemed like a model professional as well.
As an observer, seeing Mags, Peacock, Burrow, Hall, etc leave Leeds, Kallum seems the true ending to a marvellous dynasty. Good luck to him on his journey, I’m not sure he’s finished just yet.
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| Quote: Riderofthepalehorse "It’s really sad Kallum has left this way, regardless of what some say on here, he’s been a fabulous player, and ambassador for the game, seemed like a model professional as well.
As an observer, seeing Mags, Peacock, Burrow, Hall, etc leave Leeds, Kallum seems the true ending to a marvellous dynasty. Good luck to him on his journey, I’m not sure he’s finished just yet.'"
I don’t think anyone on here can doubt what a fabulous olayer he has been and I would then nk he leaves with everyone’s best wishes
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| Bold move by Leeds and well done to both sides. Thanks for the memories Kal. Now lets hope this kicks us on to bring in quality this season and next.
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| Could this bring out some good performances from him, he’s now in the shop window unless he’s already sorted something
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| Yep good call, interesting to see
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| Personally I don’t agree with those that question Kal’s work ethic, he is a real professional with a first class attitude. Lots of variables effect players’ performances over time; I don’t think any player reaches international level without working their butt off along the way.
Kal always gives his best and I think he’ll continue to do that. His issues are more down to medical structure and mental confidence. I’ve said before that my concerns were that his injury was a “magsy” type where it has robbed him of some mobility and pace permanently, and he isn’t a great candidate for second row.
Without that injury, he probably plays at Leeds until he retires, but this is a collision sport and bodies break sometimes. That’s nobody’s fault; it’s just incumbent upon the club to do the right thing.
It looks there are a few more in the departure lounge too.
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| Quote: christopher "Could this bring out some good performances from him, he’s now in the shop window unless he’s already sorted something'"
I hope you are right. I'd be surprised if he has agreed to this release without having obtained some serious interest from elsewhere.
Very sad for mine. Class act, class guy. Yes he has struggled this year but at 28, he could get a full pre-season in and be a force again next year. Can see him now following Blake Austin and Clark around and causing chaos.
We have virtually no real class and have now lost the guy with the most.
TBF to Sinfield he is not going to die wondering and wish Kallum all the best and thanks for the memories.
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| Doesn’t seem like a very Leeds-like thing to do. There are some other massive earners at the club that are performing as bad or worse that haven’t as far as we know been asked to take a pay cut. The ones I’m thinking of are newcomers relatively speaking whereas Watkins has given great service and shown a lot of loyalty.
It’s not a great look to an outsider than a player that has given so much can be effectively binned off like this. For your sakes I hope Sinfield knows what he’s doing because things are resembling the 80s and 90s.
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| History will tell us whether or not this ends up being the right call, but one thing I'm going to put our there is that KS deserves some credit here.
He had some culpability with the Furner affair I imagine, but he made a call. He's made a call on the club captain. It looks like there will be others.
Sinfield is showing the courage to make some big decisions in order to get Leeds back on track.
We can't have our cake and eat it: in order to make changes Sinfield has to release salary cap.
I imagine he'll be attempting to retain the likes of Walker if he can for a start.
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| Quote: Bullseye "Doesn’t seem like a very Leeds-like thing to do. There are some other massive earners at the club that are performing as bad or worse that haven’t as far as we know been asked to take a pay cut. The ones I’m thinking of are newcomers relatively speaking whereas Watkins has given great service and shown a lot of loyalty.
It’s not a great look to an outsider than a player that has given so much can be effectively binned off like this. For your sakes I hope Sinfield knows what he’s doing because things are resembling the 80s and 90s.'"
I suspect Sinfield finds the club in a similar position to when Powell and Smith took over and he was coming through. Very talented lads in the Academy with changes needed to the senior squad. I actually think Leeds can hardly fail to be more competitive next year with the changes being made - as long as we stay up this year of course.
In all fairness, and I totally get the injury background, Kal has been 6/7 from 10 most weeks this year and we're over half the season in. It looks like they've come to an agreement (pay out) and time to move on.
I'd be amazed if Ferres were retained next season, or JJB, Ablett. There will be a number of others under the spotlight, and I can't see Lolohea being retained next year. Ward I feel is going to have to prove his fitness this year too.
End of the day if you're taking a big wedge in a team under threat of relegation, you have to be performing well individually otherwise of course you'll become a target.
Don't forget this is the second such injury Kal has had in his career, and the club has stood by his rehab both times.
Leeds do try to do the right thing by and large, but we are in serious threat of relegation (again) and there is a case of some eggs and omelettes here.
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| I’d would expect Watkins, Lolohea, Ablett, Ferres, Golding, Donaldson to leave. Possibly Parcell too for starters.
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| Quote: Frosties. "I’d would expect Watkins, Lolohea, Ablett, Ferres, Golding, Donaldson to leave. Possibly Parcell too for starters.'"
Yeah and when you add JJB into that, plus maybe one or two others, and we have the space for the +3/4 real quality signings we clearly need (and maybe a better chance of retaining Walker).
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| Quote: christopher "But they did and it hasn’t worked out plus they won’t be on anywhere near the money Watkins is on, we are now looking forward just harping on about past mistakes won’t help anything'"
It doesnt matter if we're paying them in hot dogs they were finished & not worth anything whatsoever.
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