I'm sorry but if you think changing the coach wont make a difference please look up Bielsa and how he has transformed Leeds utd with pretty much the same players.

Ahh OK because it worked then, it will work for us, in a totally different sport.

For every success story of changing a coach there will be a story of failure.

I'm happy to give Furner a bit more time, but whilst we look quite good at times in attack our defence is horrible, and its the one area of the game where attitude and working together counts more than ability. Some very competitive teams have been built entirely around a limited set of players that work their s off in defence. I can only think we've got serious morale issues within the squad, as we've changed coaches three times in a year and the defence is getting worse, not better.

I don't know who these mugs are, but yeah, they are mugs. McDermott should of stayed put. Now we've got this cretin and Leeds are a laughing stock.

It’s amazing how stupid some people are, well done for confirming that. The calls on McDermot were on the damage he was doing for long term, exactly showing up proven right now. You need to wake up, those people were correct. People like you that can obviously be blamed for backing that right now.

Of course there is but what is clear is that Furner isn't get the team playing for him. He certainly has made us go backwards since last year. The defensive structure is appalling and that is something the coach can improve on.

Yes the players need to be blamed but a quality coach can make a big impact

If Furner can't coach defence then we need someone who can. Needn't be his replacement but we've been weak as p1ss in that department from day 1 and it constantly costs us metres and constantly costs us tries. Needs players to put their shoulders in as opposed to grabbing and it needs others to hit low and halt the leg drives. Basics, in other words. Course, you need players with the stomach for hard work for it to work rather than plain, ordinary stomachs.

Agreed.

For the record i want to state i am not part of the Furner out brigade. If in the event this thread reaches 500 pages

In all seriousness the squad in the main is poop. We know it is poop. Furner now knows too that it is poop. The guy deserves a chance to turn it around and its far too early to be moving the deck chairs. We are probably going to be bottom 4 but we won't go down; give him a chance to bring in the players he wants and off load the garbage get a good pre season and then judge from next season.

It was never going to be a quick fix to get us up there again and chopping the coach after every 6 months is not the solution.

This is a reasoned solution.

Lowes is the lowest common denominator. Its no co-incidence.

Get him out and get Toovey in as assistant for the rest of the season.

Shaun Wane to coach the defence!?

Ive been told this morning that Furner is not popular at all with the players and the coaching staff. This was from a current member of the coaching team. The person who told me this knows the coaching team member very very well.